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Old 08-11-2004, 03:26 PM   #51
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Lisa Bowers didn't try to dismiss the maid, she simply wanted each of the kids to do ONE chore for her. One was asked to load the dishwasher and the other child was asked to fold clothes. The maid would have still done the bulk of the cleaning.
She could have at least asked the kids to do it than order them around. Also, don't forget that Mr. Pilek is paying the maid to do her expected duties with his earned money.

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She wasn't sending the "maid away".. she was LIGHTENING her load. Big difference. To her credit, even if she did do it in a manner in which wasn't entirely correct... she is trying to instill a bit of "responsibility". Since this is, afterall..a trading spouses show, the mother's believe (as well as the viewers to an extent) that they are there to DO SOMETHING to help the family, or more simply...the "act the mother". In her life, whether she'd hire a maid or not, I'm pretty comfortable in "knowing" that she'd show them how to do those things.

Screw the maid, if the lazy lil chimp-kids can't do a simple task for ONE DAY, then yes..they're lazy lil spoiled brats.

Have we seen Mrs. Pilek wash clothes, dry dishes, put clothes away, sweep the floor??? We haven't. Simply because the kids know responsibilities, the responsibilities that their mother taught them.

Different backgrounds, different strokes..different folks. Period.

Oh, and I'm not "biased" to families with special privilages such as the Nakamuras and the Pileks. Nor do I think canadian_bunny's post was biased.
Your post refers to the Pilek kids as "lil chimp-kids" and that's not biased or insulting? Lisa could have left her attitude back home, but she was way too aggressive with them. That probably started the downward spiral.

This issue is a volatile and hot issue. We should all remember that people in different classes and situations perceive these things in a different way. I can relate more with the Pileks.
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Your post refers to the Pilek kids as "lil chimp-kids" and that's not biased or insulting?
Nope. I could have said worse or a more mean-spirited statement, do you want to hear what I REALLY think?
I doubt it.
chimp-kids doesn't equal bias.. if it's insulting, I really do.not.care.

I think it's pretty sad that Mini-Spears couldn't even talk without her mouth looking like she was rolling around rocks. She's wondering why so much money was allotted for her mouth?? Pretty obvious IMO.

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This issue is a volatile and hot issue. We should all remember that people in different classes and situations perceive these things in a different way. I can relate more with the Pileks.
I don't understand this whole paragraph, can you elaborate?
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We can be biased towards reality tv show participants.
Maveno I think Littlemermaid is saying that she related to the Pileks because she too has maids and is the same social stratum. I could be wrong.
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Maybe we shouldn't be biased or insulting cause they have a maid.
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excuse me?? so all of us that are without maids are expected to be 'less than'? um no

Mrs.B was simply trying to ready those children for life out in the real world.. like she has for her own children. It's a parents job to ready their kids to carry on their own lives. Yes Mr.P pays the maid's salary with his own money that he earned. Unless Mr. P is sending that maid to live with the kids once they leave his house he and Mrs.P are doing their children a great disservice - not to mention robbing them of the sense of satisfaction they get from a job well done
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Samantha seemed to be a nice lady but I wonder if it was just an act for the cameras. Our choice of spouse and friends are reflective of who we really are and hers are rude, cold and snooty. I don’t know what to make of her telling Lisa that Erik told her he loves her. Was she saying, “He is such a sweet boy” or rubbing it in her face that she “bonded with her son”?

I can't get over how small Zach and Katie are for their age. I am willing to bet they are not allowed to eat carbs or anything sweet. How sad!
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I don't know NYGal .. the family seemed to be pretty happy to see mom come home. She seemed down to earth. I honestly feel that the Pilek family was on the defensive for the entire time Lisa was stomping around their house. Mr. P was warm and loving with his friends on the boat and with his wife when they returned, their's is a quiet household while the Bowers is exceedingly loud and over stimulating. Lisa created her own hell. I felt that Mrs. P took a genuine interest in the Bowers kids .. just about as much interest at she showed in her own children.
I really liked Mrs. P
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Nope. I could have said worse or a more mean-spirited statement, do you want to hear what I REALLY think?
I doubt it.
chimp-kids doesn't equal bias.. if it's insulting, I really do.not.care.
Your comment may remind people of Lisa's "pleasant" approach. What about Lisa's son who hinted that the new mother may be a (b word)?


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I think it's pretty sad that Mini-Spears couldn't even talk without her mouth looking like she was rolling around rocks. She's wondering why so much money was allotted for her mouth?? Pretty obvious IMO. ?
As the kids get older, they'll realize their dreams are a little unrealistic just like girls who dream of becoming ballerinas or boys who dream of becoming President.


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I don't understand this whole paragraph, can you elaborate?
What part of it needs elaboration? People of different backgrounds and experiences have different views of things.
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Mrs.B was simply trying to ready those children for life out in the real world.. like she has for her own children. It's a parents job to ready their kids to carry on their own lives. Yes Mr.P pays the maid's salary with his own money that he earned. Unless Mr. P is sending that maid to live with the kids once they leave his house he and Mrs.P are doing their children a great disservice - not to mention robbing them of the sense of satisfaction they get from a job well done
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A lot of people like to cook but don't like to do dishes (don't forget that Lisa said she doesn't cook but Sam said she has). Lisa made the chores a big issue when it isn't. The kids can learn that as adults, but they don't have to now. They have more important things to worry about like school, family, and enjoying life. Unfortunately, Lisa's kids don't have that same privilege due to their situation.

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Samantha seemed to be a nice lady but I wonder if it was just an act for the cameras. Our choice of spouse and friends are reflective of who we really are and hers are rude, cold and snooty. I don’t know what to make of her telling Lisa that Erik told her he loves her. Was she saying, “He is such a sweet boy” or rubbing it in her face that she “bonded with her son”?

I can't get over how small Zach and Katie are for their age. I am willing to bet they are not allowed to eat carbs or anything sweet. How sad!
I'm sure you wouldn't say Sam's kids are "snooty" if they were of a lower stratum. Why would Sam want to rub something in Lisa's face? I'm sure she has better things to worry about than insulting someone whose family she enjoyed staying with for a week. Zack and Katie aren't small (height is mostly genetic by the way). They appear in shape. They're just not fat.
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Your comment may remind people of Lisa's "pleasant" approach. What about Lisa's son who hinted that the new mother may be a (b word)?
You saying I'm like Lisa? Might I suggest your retract your typing fingers before you lose all typing ability?

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As the kids get older, they'll realize their dreams are a little unrealistic just like girls who dream of becoming ballerinas or boys who dream of becoming President.
I was talking about her jaw being out of whack..it's pretty obvious.
I could care less if she wants to be Britney, nor do I care if Zach wants to be a baseball star. Good for them.




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What part of it needs elaboration? People of different backgrounds and experiences have different views of things.
Ohhh... ok then. I thought you were just saying that to ease us into the "calm knowledge" of your status quo and bankroll. I guess I was wrong.
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