Survivor 1 Sue Hawk question

livin4reality · 10-30-2003, 06:44 PM

Mods: I don't know if this is in the right area. But I figured Survivor fans of the first one would more likely be at this forum so move it if you want. Also looked in the Survivor archives but didnt see anything.

My question. In the first Survivor, Kelly and Sue were pretty good friends. Then for some reason Sue turned on Kelly. I never figured out why or what happened. Does anyone remember? Please help! This bugs me everytime I see old clips of Sue turning on Kelly at the finale.

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melpepinla · 10-30-2003, 07:49 PM

It was the final four - Rich, Kelly, Rudy and Sue. Kelly had immunity. The voting went down like this....

Rich voted Sue
Kelly voted Rich
Rudy voted Sue
Sue voted Rich

A tie! So they voted again and Kelly switched her vote to Sue, thus sending Sue home. And so the most famous speech during the final tribal council was born!!

Paulie · 10-30-2003, 07:53 PM

Sue was also cranky with Kelly for playing both sides. She felt betrayed because she thought of Kelly as a close friend and confidante. And she may have been exactly that, but she was also a competitor, and Sue lost sight of that fact.

Idol Critic · 10-30-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by melpepinla

It was the final four - Rich, Kelly, Rudy and Sue. Kelly had immunity. The voting went down like this....

Rich voted Sue
Kelly voted Rich
Rudy voted Sue
Sue voted Rich

A tie! So they voted again and Kelly switched her vote to Sue, thus sending Sue home. And so the most famous speech during the final tribal council was born!!

Yes, you're right about the way the voting went at the TC, but it wasn't the original reason for the rift between the two of them. The poster before me nailed it down pretty well. The fallout between the two of them happened BEFORE the TC. I distinctly remember the two of them having it out on the beach with each other. Sue just confronted Kelly over her loyalty, and went off on her. I think Kelly was stunned realizing it was a came that she wanted to win as well, but Sue took it and blew it way out of context....something she made a habit of doing during her stay on the Island. Had Sue not gone off on Kelly like that I don't think Kelly would have been moved to change her vote after the tie at TC. Kelly more than likely would have kept her vote, Rich would have been voted off, and the game would have turned out differently. If you ask me....it was Sue who sealed her own fate, but Kelly became the scapegoat. I knew Richard was the winner BEFORE Survior even added it's first historic episode due to an unrelated article on Richard in a New England paper. It stated that he had recently won 1 million dollars etc. Someone blew it big time there. I originally read the article on the web.....went back to print it out later in the day to prove to some coworkers that he would win etc, but the article was convieniently pulled. I should have bet a bundle on it....damn. LOL! Anyway.....even though I knew Richard was going to win, after the final four I really wanted Kelly to walk away with the money.....but that's just my view and opinion on the topic.

livin4reality · 10-31-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Idol Critic

Yes, you're right about the way the voting went at the TC, but it wasn't the original reason for the rift between the two of them. The poster before me nailed it down pretty well. The fallout between the two of them happened BEFORE the TC. I distinctly remember the two of them having it out on the beach with each other. Sue just confronted Kelly over her loyalty, and went off on her. I think Kelly was stunned realizing it was a came that she wanted to win as well, but Sue took it and blew it way out of context....something she made a habit of doing during her stay on the Island. Had Sue not gone off on Kelly like that I don't think Kelly would have been moved to change her vote after the tie at TC. Kelly more than likely would have kept her vote, Rich would have been voted off, and the game would have turned out differently. If you ask me....it was Sue who sealed her own fate, but Kelly became the scapegoat. I knew Richard was the winner BEFORE Survior even added it's first historic episode due to an unrelated article on Richard in a New England paper. It stated that he had recently won 1 million dollars etc. Someone blew it big time there. I originally read the article on the web.....went back to print it out later in the day to prove to some coworkers that he would win etc, but the article was convieniently pulled. I should have bet a bundle on it....damn. LOL! Anyway.....even though I knew Richard was going to win, after the final four I really wanted Kelly to walk away with the money.....but that's just my view and opinion on the topic.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

That sounds like the Sue I remember. I too wanted Kelly to win. I wonder what set Sue off in the first place about the loyalty issue? Did Rich have his evil hand in there somewhere?

joeguy · 10-31-2003, 02:13 PM

Sue is doing a radio commercial here in Reno for a casino that is just west of town and on I-80. which has a major truck stop gas station attached to it. so she is useing her trucker past to play on in the commercial

Roz_City · 10-31-2003, 02:37 PM

Like Gervase said at the final TC, Sue was a sore loser..period.. On more than one occasion, prior to her alleged betrayal, she said she was gonna vote Kelly off, but Kelly kept winning the IC's. Sue got beat at her own game and she could'nt hanlde it. So, 3 years later its still good ridddance to her.

melpepinla · 10-31-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulie

Sue was also cranky with Kelly for playing both sides. She felt betrayed because she thought of Kelly as a close friend and confidante. And she may have been exactly that, but she was also a competitor, and Sue lost sight of that fact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idol Critic

Yes, you're right about the way the voting went at the TC, but it wasn't the original reason for the rift between the two of them. The poster before me nailed it down pretty well. The fallout between the two of them happened BEFORE the TC. I distinctly remember the two of them having it out on the beach with each other. Sue just confronted Kelly over her loyalty, and went off on her. I think Kelly was stunned realizing it was a came that she wanted to win as well, but Sue took it and blew it way out of context....something she made a habit of doing during her stay on the Island. Had Sue not gone off on Kelly like that I don't think Kelly would have been moved to change her vote after the tie at TC. Kelly more than likely would have kept her vote, Rich would have been voted off, and the game would have turned out differently. If you ask me....it was Sue who sealed her own fate, but Kelly became the scapegoat. I knew Richard was the winner BEFORE Survior even added it's first historic episode due to an unrelated article on Richard in a New England paper. It stated that he had recently won 1 million dollars etc. Someone blew it big time there. I originally read the article on the web.....went back to print it out later in the day to prove to some coworkers that he would win etc, but the article was convieniently pulled. I should have bet a bundle on it....damn. LOL! Anyway.....even though I knew Richard was going to win, after the final four I really wanted Kelly to walk away with the money.....but that's just my view and opinion on the topic.

Thanks for adding more of the history between Kelly and Sue guys! I remembered it, but didn't want to get any of the details wrong in my post.

10-30-2003, 06:44 PM	#1
livin4reality FORT Fogey Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lawrence KS Posts: 2,256	Survivor 1 Sue Hawk question Mods: I don't know if this is in the right area. But I figured Survivor fans of the first one would more likely be at this forum so move it if you want. Also looked in the Survivor archives but didnt see anything. My question. In the first Survivor, Kelly and Sue were pretty good friends. Then for some reason Sue turned on Kelly. I never figured out why or what happened. Does anyone remember? Please help! This bugs me everytime I see old clips of Sue turning on Kelly at the finale.

10-30-2003, 07:49 PM	#2
melpepinla Play ball!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In the bleachah seats Posts: 1,126	It was the final four - Rich, Kelly, Rudy and Sue. Kelly had immunity. The voting went down like this.... Rich voted Sue Kelly voted Rich Rudy voted Sue Sue voted Rich A tie! So they voted again and Kelly switched her vote to Sue, thus sending Sue home. And so the most famous speech during the final tribal council was born!! __________________ I think Johnny Damon has the SWEETEST mullet in major league baseball!

10-30-2003, 07:53 PM	#3
Paulie Sexy evil genius Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not the regular cabana boy Age: 39 Posts: 11,787	Sue was also cranky with Kelly for playing both sides. She felt betrayed because she thought of Kelly as a close friend and confidante. And she may have been exactly that, but she was also a competitor, and Sue lost sight of that fact. __________________ When you're ten years old and a car drives by and splashes a puddle of water all over you, it's hard to decide if you should go to school like that or try to go home and change and probably be late. So while he was trying to decide, I drove by and splashed him again. - Jack Handey Read Paulie's Precaps for Survivor:Vanuatu: 1-2-3-4-5

10-31-2003, 02:13 PM	#6
joeguy FORT Fogey Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: just above the horizon, but below the ozone Posts: 3,748	Sue is doing a radio commercial here in Reno for a casino that is just west of town and on I-80. which has a major truck stop gas station attached to it. so she is useing her trucker past to play on in the commercial

10-31-2003, 02:37 PM	#7
Roz_City FORT Fan Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 358	Like Gervase said at the final TC, Sue was a sore loser..period.. On more than one occasion, prior to her alleged betrayal, she said she was gonna vote Kelly off, but Kelly kept winning the IC's. Sue got beat at her own game and she could'nt hanlde it. So, 3 years later its still good ridddance to her.