12-18-2006, 04:29 PM #141
I'm glad Yul won.
12-18-2006, 04:32 PM #142
She said that on Survivor Live.
The votes were: Yul : Candice, Johnathon, Sundra, Brad and Adam
Ozzy: Rebecca, Jenny, Nate and Parvati
According the Ozzy on Surivor Live thats how the votes ended up.
12-18-2006, 07:42 PM #143
I heard that Jenny wasn't so close to Yul and Becky, but I still thought that she would vote for either of them. I wonder why they weren't so close.
Originally Posted by Necrom;2181876;
And thanks for informing us on who voted for who.
12-18-2006, 08:05 PM #144
Yul on Survivor Live tommorrow at 2pm EST. Ugh i gotta get a life. lmao!
12-18-2006, 08:25 PM #145
Yul - Cook Islands
First of all, I picked Yul to win it all from day one and I am glad he won. There are many questions to why he did what he did. Below is an article from an interview with him in the Bay Area newspaper.
Some of the questions he answered:
1. Why he let Ozzy win all the challenges. Apparently it was a strategy. He played Water Polo and ran track in his earlier years so he was not a slouch by his own right.
2. Why he decided to vote out Jonathan.
It made everything much clearer.
Yul Kwon’s Survivor Strategy
Posted by Susan on December 18th, 2006
San Mateo’s Yul Kwon is, without a doubt, the ultimate “Survivor'’ strategist.
And he has a great sense of humor. When talking to him this morning, the day after he beat out surfer Ozzy, AKA Monkey boy, for the million, he talked about his parents’ reaction to him going on the show.
His parents, who immigrated to the United States from South Korea, were unclear on the “Survivor'’ premise.
“My father thought that they put 20 people on a deserted island and the one left alive got the million,'’ Kwon says. “My parents were actually hoping I’d go on `The Bachelor.’ But at this point, they would like me to show up on the doorstep with a wife and baby.'’
So just how did he manipulate himself into winning the million bucks? We’ll let Yul speak for himself.
Kwon says he watched the first season of “Survivor'’ and then rarely watched after that. When he was recruited by the producers to go on the show - they knew about him from his work on Steve Westly’s California campaign - he said he quickly crammed by renting out several seasons of “Survivor.'’
Even though he had a plan, and a knack for calculating statistically feasible outcomes, he just hoped that he wouldn’t be the first one ejected from the game.
His first break came when he found the hidden immunity idol on Exile Island.
“The immunity idol is a gun with one bullet. If I used it that way, it wasn’t really useful. The power is in the potential to use it,'’ Yul says. “When I found the idol, I wanted to save it to change the flow of the game.'’
And so he did. Two other dramatic events could have taken Yul out of the game.
The first event was when team members Candice and Jonathan decided to switch to the other team _ which left their tribe at a disadvantage with only four members in the tribe. It could have meant that they could have been quickly picked off during a tribe merge. They only way they could stay alive in the short term was to win challenges.
Yul embraced Ozzy as the Challenge Master.
“Ozzy was the best hedge to deflect attention away from me. I had been targeted to get out, but he was my insurance,'’ Yul says.
Yul says the four bonded into a group and that he worked to keep them together by making them all feel as if they were part of the decision making process.
“We never felt threatened by each other, we trusted each other that we would all get to the final four together,'’ Yul says.
After the merge, they needed to flip someone in the dominant Raro tribe. Which brought up the one time when Yul believed there might be a tear in the bond of the four.
“Jonathan was rational enough to understand that it was in his own self-interest to flip, so he was the obvious choice,'’ Yul says. “But Ozzy wanted to turn Nate, and I didn’t understand why Nate, who had a strong alliance, would want to go to our side. His already secure for a No. 5 spot in his own tribe. Why flip for the same position in our tribe?
“So I asked Ozzy how he could convince Nate, and he started talking about how he would appeal to him as being an outsider in the (predominately white) tribe, just like Ozzy felt like an outsider in our tribe. As soon as he said it, it was like a bird flew in his mouth and he just trailed off. I realized that he was going to screw us and try for an alliance with Nate against us.'’
So Yul went to convince Jonathan that it was in his best interest to flip and at least be guaranteed a No. 5 position. He told Jonathan that he had the immunity idol and if it came down to a vote, Jonathan would be voted out because Yul would use the idol to save himself.
Yul then convinced Jonathan that the reason why Jonathan hadn’t been voted out yet was because his tribe members thought Jonathan had the immunity idol. And if Jonathan told them that Yul had the idol, then they would vote Jonathan out.
“As long as he believed the story about his tribe only keeping him in because they thought he had the idol, I knew we could flip him,'’ Yul says. “But in addition to the rational arguments, there was an emotional reason for Jonathan to flip.'’
Yul had been present at a discussion about body hair between members of the Raro tribe. The discussion turned mean-spirited against Jonathan’s wife.
“I was chopping coconuts and thought `You guys are being really rude and you’re digging your own grave.’ Jonathan was furious with them and didn’t want any of them making it to the final four,'’ Yul says. “So I told Ozzy that the only way Jonathan would flip would be if we voted Nate out, because he had made fun of Jonathan’s wife.'’
In fact, Jonathan didn’t care which one was voted out. Yul just wanted to take away Ozzy’s alternative to sticking with the four.
The other threat to the four was when Becky wanted to vote Ozzy out because she saw him as a threat. Yul says he listened to her and Sundra, but would never let that happen.
“Once you voted out one of the four, the trust was gone,'’ Yul says.
Becky and Yul became close friends during their time on the island, but it was only a friendship. Yul says that when the Candice/Jonathan mutiny happened, he offered the immunity idol to Becky if she ever needed it.
“It was silly for me to use it for myself and go into the merge alone just to get eliminated. She could have used it and flown under the radar for a while,'’ Yul says. “When we got to the end, it was a brief conversation about the idol and Becky decided that wasn’t the way she wanted to play the game.'’
Instead, under the new rules, Yul caught another break. Three would go before the tribal council instead of two. So Yul, with the immunity idol, was safe and so was Ozzy after winning the challenge. The decision was made to let Sundra and Becky battle it out in a tie-breaker after Ozzy voted Becky out and Yul voted Sundra out.
And then there was that awful fire-building challenge.
Yul says to be fair, it was terribly windy and that probably hurt the two when trying to start fires. But he also says that when Sundra ran out of wood, Becky offered some of her wood to Sundra. When Sundra ran out of matches, she cheered Becky on.
“Jeff couldn’t believe it,'’ Yul says.
In the end, Yul believed it would come down to him and Ozzy.
“I thought about, if I was close, that I would throw the immunity challenge, that way I wouldn’t have to choose between Ozzy and either Becky or Sundra because no matter who I chose, the other would feel burned,'’ Yul says. “I thought Ozzy would probably chose me because he has a real sense of fairness and I told him that if he went against Becky or Sundra, then the jury would see them all as being the same kind of players. More people on the jury hated me and since he had decimated them on the challenges, they could hold him accountable for them not making it to the finals and vote for Becky or Sundra.
“I didn’t think I would win in a landslide against Ozzy, but I thought I had a good shot.'’
The closing arguments before the jury played into Yul’s strength as a trail attorney. But even he didn’t see it coming when Ozzy claimed that he wanted the money to go to college.
Turns out that Ozzy had told everyone he would use his winnings to build a sort of surfer commune for his pals where they could live free.
“I went to the confessional booth after that and said he would win a million dollars over my dead body. What a waste.'’
Yul won by just one vote, a vote that he had guaranteed when he engineered Jonathan’s ejection.
“Adam told me that he would promise to vote for me in the final if Jonathan went before he did,'’ Yul says. “I knew Adam would keep his word.'’
So, boys and girls, that’s how you win a million bucks on “Survivor.'’
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12-18-2006, 08:52 PM #146
Haha, oh man.
Originally Posted by WCHusky;2182103;
12-18-2006, 09:46 PM #147
I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that Yul threw challenges. I don't think it's a coincidence that at the beginning of the season, the Asian tribe just dominated every challenge thanks almost solely to Yul. Then he wins the HII and all of a sudden he didn't win a single individual challenge. I think he did just enough to look like he was trying (often coming in second), but once he saw that a Raro member was not going to win, he would take it easy.
12-18-2006, 09:51 PM #148
Ya i knew that college thing was a lie. Ozzy still was a great competitor. Cant believe they made fun of Johnathon wife.
Nate is just immature and needs to grow up geesh!
12-18-2006, 10:03 PM #149
I went to the confessional booth after that and said he would win a million dollars over my dead body. What a waste.'
That quote is hilarious.
Like Johnathon said a person that young would ruin his life.
Anyway glad Yul won.
12-18-2006, 10:04 PM #150
Ozzy was good, but his college story had us going there for a sec. At least Yul was honest when he said he was trying to convince the jury when Candice asked the question. I am glad Yul won because he did the way the game should be played. He made moves that made sense. Survivor should not be just about winning every single physical challenge cause if that's the case, old men and women need not apply. Yul used a combination of brawn and brain to win the game. All the headlines that said brain over brawn is not accurate at all. All one needs to look at Yul and Ozzy and can see who is the one with the "brawn".
Originally Posted by Necrom;2182203;
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