I don't think Abi lied at TC. She said her paper had two paragraphs (or maybe two sentences) and she was only going to read the last part, which she did. I'm pretty sure the clue DID have two sentences, and the last sentence said she advanced to the final leg of the challenge. I think the first sentence said something about 'this is an advantage in the next immunity challenge' or something similar. That's splitting a pretty fine hair, I know, but technically not a lie.
She did lie to Malcolm when she told him she had another idol, unless she found one and it wasn't aired, but I don't think so.
This isn’t the Sound of freaking Music we’re watching.......sdl
I'm officially calling it. The horse is not only dead, it's been taken to the glue factory, buried, turned into dog food and stuffed into a chair. I`m also certain I'm going to wake up one day soon to find that horses head in my bed for expressing empathy for an unpopular contestant.
Remarking on the intellectual vanity of Christopher Hitchens’ atheist crusade, Ross Douthat once quipped that “If the world were to end tomorrow in the hail of fire, I’m confident that one of the last things to be heard on Earth, before the meteor hits, would be the sound of Hitchens and [evangelical minister] Tim LaHaye both shouting in perfect unison: See, I told you so!”
The thing that bothers me about people like Abi, is that when you let their behaviour slide because saying something brings too much grief and confrontation back at you, they somehow internalize that as saying their behaviour is acceptable. It's not. Abi needs to understand that the way she treats others is rude and sometimes "telling it like it is" and being "brutally honest" doesn't excuse you from being a b*****.
I think Denise was just fed up when she confronted Abi. They are both grown ups, and it would make sense, therefore, that they should be able to discuss conflict like grown ups. Abi does not know how to do that. Denise tried to explain, Abi continued to talk over her and act like a brat, and Denise said "I'm done."
I don't blame her in the slightest.
I don't blame Jeff for not outing Abi. She was gutsy to try the fake out with the clue to a HII, and it made the game a little more interesting as a result. I don't like her, but I recognize that her back was against the wall and she was hustling for her life. But personally I think she oversold it, with the posturing and the ripping the clue into little bits. I don't really think they bought it.
I finally had a chance to catch up on reading this thread more thoroughly. Too much reality tv going on now and I just quickly read through some comments the first time I glanced. This really has turned into a long discussion for one episode. I must say I have learned a lot while reading through the comments as I knew nothing about Jeff's personal life so never knew that he was dating Julie a previous player and now recently married.
One thing I marvel about many of you is remembering so many things about previous seasons and players. I have watched every season of Survivor and they are all starting to blend in now. Only certain seasons and players stick in my mind. As an example, I don't remember Penner even though this has been his third time playing. Even when I saw him appear on the screen nothing came back to me - not even those beautiful blue eyes of his. They were the first thing I noticed, and yet I wonder why I have no memory of him from before? I do know that I will remember him from now on because I feel like the rest of you regarding him. He is one class act and was such an asset to this season. He is the type of person that I would love to hear talk for as long as he wanted because he just has this way about him that makes you want to listen. I know he made a couple of mistakes that cost him in the end, and I look forward to hearing him talk at the F3 TC. If they show him at the Ponderosa that will be a bonus.
I remember someone mentioning Survivor being different these days (not necessarily those exact words), but I thought the same thing. There were no bad food items at the reward challenge and I don't remember there being so many get aways that they have now. Someone can tell me if they had them in the very beginning of Survivor because I really don't remember. It just seems that Survivor today is not as hard as it was in the beginning. It seemed like by the end people left all skin and bones compared to now. As someone mentioned earlier - the cars - I had forgotten about that as it was such a long time since we had seen that.
Thank you for checking about Abi winning a prior immunity because my first thought was I don't remember her even playing in any of them as I just have this vision of Abi sitting on the bench each week. I believe Jeff mentioned her sitting out again during one of the episodes.
I also noticed your Avatar and wanted to congratulate you on winning the DWTS All Stars Pool. That was my original intent and just got a little carried away.