HitFix: The game was only eight days in and you guys hadn't been to Tribal Council a single time. Why did the game need realigning in this way? What had gone wrong with the first bit of aligning you'd done?
Matt: When I first got out there, the Men vs. Women format, everybody realized really quickly that that changed what a normal game would be and that it gave the opportunity to get rid of some of who was perceived to be the stronger contributors to a team game, because the challenges would be based on balance and puzzle-making and coordination and that type of thing. So I think some of the guys who may be less athletic or physical felt like, "So there are these athletic types, well I can balance as well as them and I can make a puzzle as well as they can or better" or whatever their mentality was. So it allowed for these people who would have been valuable to a team game traditionally, to be expendable, so I think that everybody wanted to take that opportunity to get rid of a player like me. Initially I was aligning with the guys who were also vulnerable in the same way I was and that was Mike and Jay and Bill, to a lesser extent. We were also working with Colton, initially, for the first few days until he got that Idol. But the game is changing so much, right? You're always in a position where you're trying to create safety for yourself. I felt safe, pretty safe, for the first three days. When Colton got the Idol, he kinda drifted away and was in the middle kinda wanting people to woo him and to court him. Troy and Jonas were were aligned tightly and then Leif and Tarzan were kinda floating and Bill was floating a little bit. It was just about trying to get the numbers and so ultimately I realized I had lost that battle, that the group that's been labeled "The Misfits" on TV had the numbers and intended on being in control and I wasn't a part of that control, so obviously I was very, very vulnerable at that minute and felt it and so that's why I wanted to try to shake up the game, which was to put myself in a better situation. I was gonna do that by talking to Troy and Jonas and keeping my original strong three and then we'd have five like that. I needed to shake up the game, because as it turned out, as I was standing there on Day 6 or whatever, I was as vulnerable as anybody and I didn't like that, so I wanted to change that reality.
HitFix: The way we saw it on TV, Colton only showed his Idol to his alliance. But everybody on the Tribe knew?
Matt: Yeah. It was a big deal and gossip travels fast out there. Everyone kinda knew that Sabrina had found the Idol and needed to give it up, so I knew that Colton had the Idol on Day 3, I think, and everybody in our Tribe knew shortly thereafter. So yeah, people knew Colton had the Idol. It was very obvious Colton had the Idol. He wasn't being super-sneaky about it. He was actually talking about it quite a bit, building up his case. He kept saying he wasn't going home because he was going to play the Idol, so we all knew he had the Idol.
HitFix: You also just mentioned that in the initial round of alliance-building, you had Colton in your alliance, which we didn't see on TV. What was that about?
Matt: What you did see is that the four guys -- Me, Mike, Jay, Bill -- were together and that was the case on Day 1 or Day 2. Bill kinda ended up being more in the middle than tightly with us. But Colton was also kinda a fish out of water out there and we were working with Colton as well. Nobody really galvanized except for the four, my four, until probably Day 5 or 6. You saw that on TV last night, when Colton said, "OK. So this is our five. This is our five." I think also when Colton showed the Idol around the campfire to Troy and Leif, that also cinched it to them. In my opinion, he had to show them the Idol, because I think they were still viewing him as the first to go and so when he did that, everything kinda changed at that minute. Colton went from somebody I was playing with, who as I viewed as just a vote, to a guy who got the Idol and put himself out kinda in the middle and wanted to be courted and nobody knew which way he was going, to being head of what's been labeled The Misfits and when that became obvious to me, that's when I needed to shake up the game, because I realized that I was not in a majority at all.
HitFix: Do you think that Colton has control over what he's doing? Do you think he's playing a good game? Or do you view him as lucking his way along to some degree?
Matt: I think everybody that plays "Survivor," you have to rely on some good luck. There's good luck and bad luck out there at every turn, so of course everybody's lucky or unlucky. But I do think that there's a method to Colton's madness and I can say, for myself, that I underestimated Colton initially and felt like he was just this kid who was emotional and in over his head and that would allow me to control him, but ultimately as I learned, I don't think Colton is the type of guy that you can control. He's way more Alpha Male than people want to give him credit for because he's gay and pretty flamboyant out there, but he really is trying to control this game. Colton was not a tag-along and I guess initially I viewed like that, like a weak player that would just do what he was told to do to save his own skin, but once he got that Idol, it allowed kinda his true game to come out, which was that he wants to control the game. At the end of the day, I think that Colton is a good player.