Ask me to show you poetry in motion, and I will show you a horse.
I guess I see Coach differently in that I think he uses the dragon slayer persona and this year his religious/honesty/integrity emphasis as merely a way to manipulate others so that he can win the game. I don't see it so much as being a hypocrite as in just playing the game. He might well be this way in real life, I don't know. Regardless, one-third of Survivor's motto is "Outwit" and I just think that's what he's doing. I don't take it personally - if he wants to be fake about it, I'm not the one he'll have to answer to someday.
Whitney, on the other hand, did something bad but it wasn't game play, it was just bad (adultery). To me there's a difference.
So, I know Coach is "icky" to a lot of people, I guess I just don't really care, I just enjoy watching how it all plays out.
To return evil for good is devilish; to return good for good is human; to return good for evil is Divine - Alistair Begg
I kind of agree with you, SugarMama. The reason I'm not sure is because I don't know if Coach is playing the game or if he really believes it. I think it is icky and underhanded. But it is a game and the game, to a certain extent is about manipulation and lying. Some of the players see through it and others fall for it. That is part of the game and while I never like someone using religion as a game, I do get that part of it. But if he really believes it? Well, then I agree with those who have pointed out his talk about honor and integrity while backstabbing people, and then saying it was God's will. Those people scare me a bit, if they really believe that - like that absolves them from every terrible thing they do in the world. If that is what is going on, well, that I can't get behind.
If he didn't at least partially believe it, why did he actually get down on his knees and pray... twice? "The same name kept repeating over and over..." He can lie to Brandon all he wants, but why lie to the viewer?
Could be a ditch-digger, a nobel prize winner, a 12-year old kid, or some unread person from the hills. The only thing that matters is that thought is involved in the decision. And those are who I would like to see play this game.
This is also the reason I'm liking the morality talk in this season...thought is involved (even Brandon has thought things out and comes to his decision).
Last edited by Jexter; 12-16-2011 at 07:18 PM.
I don't know if Coach believes everything he says and does - I am just enjoying this season and for some reason I really like him. Maybe I feel bad for him after all he went through with his family after his first go around. And then Jerri toying with him on HVV. He's a hard nut to crack & although some of his actions and decisions make me go hmmmm - I like him.
The main problem I have with the "it's God's will" explanation is where you draw the line between "God's will" and free will (one's own actions). Since Coach was able to attribute his "decision" to vote out Brandon to "God's will", couldn't a person attribute all their game decisions to God's will, saying that they asked God for guidance in each decision? If one decision was due to God's will, why not others? And if a decision is due to God's will, no one can really be upset with you for making it, since it was God's doing and not your own. At what point does God's will stop and one's own actions begin? It's all very confusing to me in that regard.
I'm hoping for a Sophie win. She's very smart and she doesn't seem to appreciate the self righteous repeating of the mantra and bringing religion into the game constantly, but has kept her mouth shut about it to keep the peace. I also liked her observation about the Ozzy pleasure dome. I had never thought of that.
"In spite of all the temptation you have endured, all the suffering, you remain pure of heart, just as pure as you were at the age of eleven, when you stared into a mirror that reflected your heart's desire, and it showed you only the way to thwart Lord Voldemort, and not immortality or riches."
Anyway, I'm really, really hoping next season brings zero prayer circles. I find them really coercive in the Survivor situation, even when people aren't being yanked to their knees as Edna was....kind of like having prayer in schools. If you want to pray go off by yourself and do it, don't force everyone else to either go along or look like some kind of evil anti-God person and an easy boot.