Ha, loved the Clay as Lucky picture, that's super. I think the challenge set-up for picking pairs with an odd number was really interesting tv as it made it perfectly clear to Jake and everyone else that he was really all alone, as not even sneaky Penny would partner with him. I felt a little bad for Jake, but not that bad, because I don't really care for him that much. I like Clay better. Ponderous, real ponderous.
You don't like Jake and like Clay better, LG?!
Yesterday's show was really Clay's show I think - wich also makes me believe that he will be booted next time. I think he was a complete jerk, going on and on about how "in" and clever he was and how "out" and stupid Jake was. Ha - hope they'll kick your butt out to looser's lodge swiftly next time!
Anyone noticed Ted patting Clay's butt, btw? Ted sure has something for butts! :) Or was this a gesture of ridicule, meaning: "you think you are so clever, little man, but you have no idea... haha!".
Fluff, I don't think this points to a split.
Originally posted by fluff
Interesting, Clay and Brian did not vote the same way.
Jake voted for Jan
Ted, Jan, Brian and Helen for Penny.
Penny and Clay voted for Jake.
The CG's deciced to vote for Penny (and who could blame them).
Then Jake speaks out a tribal council that about how he is playing the game better than some of the CG's (or something like that).
Clay changed his vote and told the confessional that it was because of Jakes statement.
I think Modesty may be on to something here in that Clay is getting a lot of camera time now. That can't be good.
On the otherhand, they are getting low on camera quality commentary and actions, so Clay will rise to the top.
If he gets it next week, then that means Jake made some inroads, and that makes for an exciting finish.
I agree Invs... I think Clay changed his mind after Jake's speech. I think Brian is playing two alliances to help make sure he makes final four at least. I don't think Clay could have pulled Ted over the wall as easily as he did with Brian. Jake sure had it pointed out to him that he is a loner with the group, especially now that Penny is gone. I like Clay, I was rooting for him before the show started, and even though he does or says some things that make me feel that he screwed up, I still want him to go all the way, but I am not sure how good of an alliance he has with everyone to get there.
I agree. I think Clay voting for Jake was just a 'screw you' vote. Clay thinks he's safe and can give a throwaway vote. Must just kill him that he couldn't get rid of Jake.
I'm also stunned. LG - you still like Clay? You and my friend walk alone. She just loves him!
I think we saw a side of Jake that will continue into next week.
He knows he has to stir the pot, and I suspect that he knew Penny was going, or he wouldn't have done it.
But, he took the opportunity to get the question of honestly on the table. It wasn't so much when he said he was competing as well as anyone there (which is true), it was the lead up to that comment about what the Chuay's had promised.
He knows that was just a story told to keep everyone happy, and that the Sook's were targets from day one, but I think he said to remind everyone on Chuay that they are indeed playing the game, as much as some would ignore it, and it is time to wake up....Helen and Jan...are you listening?
Jake is really shrewd, I think. Boston Rob was a world-class pot stirrer, but he didn't necessarily make people think. Everything Jake said in Tribal Council was directed at someone to make them think about what they're doing in the game. The guy is coming off as freaking brilliant to me.
If Jake's team had been in the majority at the merge, I don't doubt that he would be the favorite to win. He knows the alliances and relationships inside and out.
His only mistake so far was to not tell Ted the names of who told him to vote that way.
Based on his track record though, I gotta believe he is holding that information on purpose.
I agree. I think Jake's actions and comments were almost flawless this week. I think his only mistake was not telling Ted who told them to vote against him. Other than that, the vote for Jan instead of Penny was smart because he gave Penny no reason at all to vote against him should he make the final two, and at this point, Jan hasn't said anything at all bad about Jake. He did a decent job of raising doubts and pointing out pecking orders to Ted and Helen, and his comment at TC about the Sook's was very shrewd indeed - as Bill pointed out. I love the fact that he isn't giving up, yet he didn't stoop to the desperate backstabbing form that Penny did. Still kicking myself for ever defending her to the folks here! :wallbang
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