A woman is like a tea bag - you can't tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water. Eleanor Roosevelt
I also think the social aspects of the game are harder than we imagine day to day. The kind of move she had to make tonight and with Andrea, etc doesn't seem easy for her and really messes with her emotions. We hear her talking to herself and others about the pressure she feels to make the right and strategic decision this time because she didn't last time. She obviously doesn't want to face her kids without knowing she did the absolute best she could to win. I'm sure she'll be weeping about Brenda this Sunday. But Dawn, try to stop with all the weeping please. I know you haven't slept or eaten and it's a high pressure situation, and perhaps peri menopause in the mix, we get it, but we don't want to watch you lose it again.
Everyone has their own opinion and this is mine. I find them all selfish, cruel people. I just don't have any respect for any of them that wrote Brenda's name down. Cochran may have saved her last week and Brenda was not targeting him this week. It then comes to a point where they have to go against each other. Brenda was not targeting him until the following week and she said it was going to be very hard. I just find it funny that people would rather have it be Brenda's fault after an act of kindness on her part. Again, jmho.
This is Survivor- you need to check your 'morals' at the door when you sign up. I'm sure in 'real life' these people are not backstabbing, horrible, insensitive people. They went on the show to win a million dollars and that is what they are trying to do. They are down to the final 5 and they can smell how close they are to winning and they will do whatever they need to do to save their own butts and I'm perfectly fine with that. Money has always been a struggle for my family and if I were in the same position as these people I would fight tooth and nail to get it- not because I am a money hungry person, but because it would mean I could breathe a little easier, not look in the checkbook if we need milk or gas, not sorry about how I'm going to fix my car if it breaks or how I'm going to put my kids through college. Looking out for your family doesn't make you a terrible person and if 15 virtual strangers never spoke to me again because I pulled some big game move I would be ok with that because I would know I had done the right thing for my family.
ETA: And Brenda will be fine by the Reunion Show, laughing and joking with the others. I'm sure a few hours after her boot she recognized it was good game play. Andrea did the second it happened- it's just going to take Brenda a little longer to realize it.
Well, for one, Dawn could argue that without her, Cochran never would have had the information that he was able to get. It's Dawn's relationship with the other players that have them giving her HER (them) information. Without her, Cochran doesn't really know what is happening! That's a fairly strong argument.Originally Posted by jaceegirl
I would like to say about Dawn that she has had a dirty job in the Cochran/Dawn pairing. Time after time they have come to Dawn to make a move in the game. When she goes to Cochran, he cleverly makes a counter move to keep himself in control. It is really brilliant game playing on the part of Cochran, but it is all useless without Dawn. He made a perfect pairing for himself here. In a lot of ways I can understand her constant crying... a lot of her game relies on relationships, and to stick with Cochran she feels herself that she has used the information that people have given her in their trust. Here's the key, though. Every time a person has gone to Dawn, it never works out for them. As game players, why didn't they LEARN that? It's on them to see that going to Dawn doesn't work out like it should.
In any case, I think Dawn could make a great case for herself. Cochran can too. Erik can make an interesting case. Eddie will get a bro vote. Hold up bro, I'll vote for you, bro! Let's bro down together!
I am sitting here wondering this morning why it was so immoral to vote Brenda off the island? What made her off limits? Is it because she gave up the family visit? Is it because we saw her be nice a couple of times?
I admit that I am not a Survivor expert so maybe I just don't know how things work. I did see Brenda before and she was not the nicest person around then though I did not despise her like I heard some others did at the time. How come Brenda was off limits but no one else was? Why was it okay that she voted others off and that wasn't immoral even though she did not tell them ahead of time that they were going to be blindsided? What would have been the moral move? I just don't get why Brenda should have been treated differently or more special than anyone else.
Will you accept my dancing rose bro as a 'special powers' idol?
Agreed ilja. For everyone upset about Brenda being voted off, they should watch Brenda's Ponderosa video. She's not angry and she understands it's a game. Phillip is the only one mad at Dawn, though I'm not sure what Dawn did to Phillip? lol
Kudos to Brenda for her calm and rational demeanour after being voted out. I think the tears were a knee jerk reaction to the shock of being voted out. She just didn't see it coming. Plus, she wanted to win!
I hated the blindside last night. That being said, I understand it from Cochran's standpoint. It was the perfect time to strike where the focus would be more on Dawn's possible bag of sour apples for not going on reward and the target would be more firmly on her for her obvious betrayal than it will be on him. She's the one that was placed in the position in that alliance of two to build the close relationships and report back. They will see her as the one who betrayed them the most.
I think it was a bad choice for Dawn to blindside Brenda this week. It's like she doesn't realize she can't win against Cochran. She is the one who comes off as codependent out there, with her tears and her need for partial denture retrieval she seems to have needed the support of the others to make it out there. Even if it was a part of her strategy to appear vulnerable the jury will likely still reward the person who seemed to stand mainly on their own. She should have waited until next tribal and really thought out the next vote. Eventually she had to decide a good time to seperate herself from Cochran if she wanted a chance to win. Dawn just doesn't see it. She's a fool if she's okay with sitting next to him at final tribal.
The reward was cruel. From the decision to the fact that they had to sit and watch them. If the producers were going to be so cruel why not go all the way and have the decision leaving only the person you chose initially to go with you on the island alone and have everyone else, including the winner, go along? Then Dawn would have cried herself to the point of near drowning. Would have also made the winner look both good and bad.
At this point I don't like many of the people left behind. I like Erik but he doesn't have the best argument for final tribal. Poor clueless Eddie, he's going to wake up one day and realize that he's been on an island for over a month and doesn't even know how he got there. It's like he came in on a seperate boat that was just drifting by and decided to join that nice group of strangers for a little game. I like that one lone wolf from the underdog alliance is left behind but at this point everyone knows he's just along for the ride. He has not been included in a plan. At times he wasn't even included in the plans in his own alliance.
The next to go have to be Erik and Eddie. They were excluded from the last blindside and would receive far less venom from the jury if they stayed around. Those two have to go in order for the other three to have a chance with a possibly bitter jury. I personally don't think they will be that bitter, but you never know and they can't afford to take a chance. Eddie and Erik better pull out a miracle if they want to stick around.
Last edited by KeepItReal; 05-09-2013 at 09:21 AM.
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