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    My $0.02

    FWIW, here is my opinion on this topic.

    The game of Survivor, to my way of thinking, is exactly that; a game about surviving.

    If people actually valued finishing first as much as winning a whack load of cash, then you would not need to dangle a million dollar carrot in front of them to set the wheels of the game in motion. These people would be competing strictly for the sake of competition. For the pride that goes along with the title of sole survivor. To be one of the very few people to ever play this game would be cool enough. To be one of the very, very few who can say that they outwitted, outplayed and outlasted 15 other people would be incredible. I've often said that I would love to play this game even if there wasn't a huge cash prize for the winner. I'd just like to see how far I could go in the game. Don't get me wrong...the cash would be nice, but I'd definitely try the game without it.

    But, the bottom line is, unless you have a large pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, people would be less inclined to care about whether or not they get booted. So, in this respect, the $1 million dollars becomes necessary as an incentive to push these people into doing and saying whatever they need to to stay in the game. Thus, the game becomes entertaining.

    Carl (S2) was voted out of his tribe because he was a dentist with a nice car. His tribemates (at least the younger ones) came to the totally illogical conclusion that he did not need the money and therefore was not deserving of competing further in the game. This was absolute hogwash. Whether a person has $1 or $1,000,000,000 in his or her bank account should have no bearing on their worthiness of being crowned sole survivor. It should be about (among other things) who worked the hardest, played the smartest and forged the strongest alliances. And yet, every now and again, the old "they don't need the money" card is played. And what is truly ironic is that not once have I ever heard anyone who has used this "logic" to oust someone from the game turn around and give any valid reasons for why they, themselves are deserving of the money. I guess if they don't already have a million dollars, these people think that they automatically are entitled to a shot at it. Voting people out of Survivor because of perceived affluence is nothing more than a copout exercised by stupid people who cannot come to grips with what this game should be about brought on by a large cash prize which makes the game interesting to watch.

    So, in answer to the original question, yes. Survivor should absolutely include people of wealth as contestants. They are just as deserving of consideration as anyone else.

    And as far as the ranting about bad lawyers goes, I'll say this. Yes, there are bad lawyers. Just like there are bad teachers, plumbers, computer programmers, doctors, architects and politicians. Stereotyping, no matter who it is or what grounds it is on, is wrong. Period.

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    Saying you shouldn't be on Survivor because you make too much money already, is like saying you couldn't go on the Price is Right because you already own a stove or a LazyBoy.

    If your dumb enough to take a month out of your life to live without tooth paste then you can go for it imo
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    Foggy, I can't help but feel that you're taking out your grievances against the world on this topic, dragging in all sorts of irrelevance to try to sell it to us.

    You personally may be anti- whatever, but it's pretty apparent that most everyone here disagrees with you in this regard.

    I think the question you brought up has been answered to most everyone's satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John
    Foggy, I can't help but feel that you're taking out your grievances against the world on this topic, dragging in all sorts of irrelevance to try to sell it to us.

    You personally may be anti- whatever, but it's pretty apparent that most everyone here disagrees with you in this regard.

    I think the question you brought up has been answered to most everyone's satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy Doggy
    I guess most would consider me well off too, since I have nearly 7 figeurs in the bank, but I also am not on a R TV Show trying to take a jackpot of good fortune out of the hands of a not so fortunate person. I mean c'mon....you have it well already, why steal the money away from someone who wants to compete for it and has everything to gain from it.
    Why? When did reality TV become charity contests?

    Personally, the minute a contestant plays the 'I need the money' card, I immediately want them gone. If you need the money so damn badly then you should be off looking for a guaranteed paycheck and maybe buy a lottery ticket or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John
    Foggy, I can't help but feel that you're taking out your grievances against the world on this topic, dragging in all sorts of irrelevance to try to sell it to us.

    You personally may be anti- whatever, but it's pretty apparent that most everyone here disagrees with you in this regard.

    I think the question you brought up has been answered to most everyone's satisfaction.

    Well said...

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    John, I guess you're right, but coming from less than wealthy background has tainted the way I see affluent people......I admit to being a socialist at heart.

    Okay, you can close the thread if ya want.......I am just very surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcrae
    Voting people out of Survivor because of perceived affluence is nothing more than a copout exercised by stupid people
    That is an excellent comment. I agree 100%. It's always angered me to hear people use that as a rationale for voting someone out. I know people are always looking for reasons to vote someone out, but this one is the dumbest of all.

    I also agree with you, tmcrae, that for most of the folks who are really competing to win the game, you could remove the million dollar prize at the end and they'd still want to beat everyone else in the game. I've often thought about applying for the show, and my primary motivation would be to play the game. I'm not rich, and I could use a million dollars like anyone else could, but my interest in applying is so I could play the game and beat everyone else.
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    btw, as an attorney, I know that we don't all drive fancy cars. While many attorneys do come from "privileged" backgrounds, many do not. Those who didn't have family money sending them to school often have hundreds of thousands in school debt (college and law school) by the time they pass the bar exam and too many folks who would be inclined to go into "public interest" law cannot because they need big firm bucks to pay off their loans. Some attorneys make fantastic salaries. Many make decent money. Some are barely able to repay their school loans. There are very few attorneys at a mid to large sized law firm who would be able to meet their billable hour requirement while taking off 5 weeks, so they are forgoing their chance to get a bonus this year for this opportunity. I wouldn't do it. More power to those who do. I think it's more interesting to watch people from different economic backgrounds competing for the prize than to watch 16 bartender / actor wannabes all looking for their 15 minutes.
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    Foggy, I gotta say I completely disagree with your premise presented, but that is more of a topic for current events.
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