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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    Quote Originally Posted by Duckyface View Post
    Maybe someone said it, but I don't remember reading anyone saying that Dawn had nothing to do with Brenda being voted out. She's playing the game so of course she did. I just said Brenda didn't get voted out because she was "true" to Dawn, which was what was said.

    Why shouldn't have Cochran targeted Brenda once she started targeting him? To say it's ok that she do it, but not him, or his alliance mate, seems very twisted.
    It was said by one of the posters, but I am not going to call them out personally...

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    Brenda was blindsided because she was a threat to win and did well in challenges. It had nothing to do with Dawn.



    Yes, it absolutely had to do with Dawn, because she voted Brenda, her supposed BFF, out of the game. End of story, period.
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    Quote Originally Posted by Duckyface View Post
    Wow and just to add a note of reality into this, Dawn is being attacked and threatened on social media to the point she had to shut it down not wanting her children to have to see it. Sad. All because she wanted to win a million dollars to help her kids rather than just hand it over to Brenda
    Oh, but she doesn't feel entitled to win because she has kids over anyone who doesn't? Well that just flies in the face of that argument doesn't it. LOL
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    I finally watched this episode....then read all the posts about it. I can understand those that feel negative about Dawn's actions but in this game you can't live by real life standards and morals. You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and sometimes that's achieved by doing some downright mean and conniving things that appalls us.
    My curiosity about Dawn is that I would think that someone who is as religious as she is, would have a problem being willing to do these kinds of things, even in a game. To me, it would be a moral dilemma. Can you throw away all that you believe in regards to treating o people in your life? I think for most people they can distinguish the difference and feel ok about stabbing someone in the back because it is a game. If you want to win, you have to know that this will most likely happen. Dawn never seems troubled by it which surprises me. Given the fact that she is so overly emotional, you'd think you'd hear her struggle with it.
    Or did I miss her doing this?
    I really liked Brenda this season and really enjoyed seeing her with her dad. He gave her wonderful advice and it made my heart happy to see an adult child listen to their parent.

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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

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    Even before the loved ones challenge he [Cochran]started planning Brenda's demise when Eddie told him he thought after himself Cochran would be the next to go.
    Interesting that Eddie actually made a move here that saved himself ... and was pivotal in the decision to boot Brenda. He's not as stooopid as some people think
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    This is a game! Think of it as any game.

    When you play cards ... do you decide not to play your winning hand so as not to hurt a friends feelings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaceegirl View Post
    Speaking for myself and other comments along the way I think there has been plenty of blame for all 3 of the players. I am really hoping for an Erik or Eddie win. I want Eric to win first because of the adorable heart he made with his hands while on the platform at the barbecque. I think of all the players left he and Eddie showed the most love and thanks for what Brenda did for them. They were not part of the blindslide and obviously after what she had done for them, whether it be for votes or not, they imo were just plain greatful for Brenda's act of kindness. Something else I wanted to add regarding Andrea being blindsided the week before, and I had forgotten was that Andrea herself, had been planning to blindside Brenda in her attempt to keep Eddie safe, for the previous two weeks so I really understand why she had that look on her face that some had mentioned. If you knew you were the target for two weeks then it certainly was not an evil act on Brenda's part out of no where.

    We all have different opinions of the types of players we want to see win. I see that by reading all the different comments made by so many. I personally like to see players who are very much like Brenda and how she played this season. She was kind, good at challenges and for me became my favorite player.

    I think the reason Dawn seems to be blamed the most is because so much of Brenda's kindness was directed to Dawn who became so much of a hysterical, crying mess. The teeth incident and others have been mentioned many times so I won't mention them again.

    Yes, I realize Cochran is loved by many, but not by me. Even before the loved ones challenge he started planning Brenda's demise when Eddie told him he thought after himself Cochran would be the next to go. Cochran thought he had been perceived as this nerdy guy and not a threat at all. I think the seed was already planted by Eddie and why I said upthread no matter what choice Brenda made she was already targeted by Cochran. It may have been strategic on Cochran's part, but Brenda had no intentions of Cochran going before Eddie. I also don't see this brillant play by Cochran that some do. Not saying I am right and others are wrong, just how I view the game and jmhos. He first was under Phillip and Phillip pretty much dictated how things went. After that much of his game play would not have happened if he didn't have a mole like Dawn bringing him the information. I am not sure how that will play out at TC if Dawn, Sherri and himself are F3. If he brings up Dawn's part who will that hurt the most? It just might benefit Sherri who has done absolutely nothing this season. I hadn't really thought about that until reading over all the comments again and sorry, but don't remember who suggested it as a possible argument for Dawn.

    Because I have no respect for Cochran, Dawn or Sherri I really hope that none of them make F3 and that somehow Eric or Eddie win the million dollars. My reason is their act of kindness which means a lot to me. These are just my opinions, and I know are quite the opposite of how most of you feel, but we are all allowed to like who we like. My favorite player is not there any longer. Actually two of my favorite players are not there any longer now with Brenda being the last eliminated. Just hope no one is eliminated because of injury from the game at this point.

    Also, want to include some of the things that were said by others and myself about Cochran and Sherri so that you see Dawn is not the only one getting the blame.







    Just some of many, but I think all 3 look pretty bad in some people's eyes. Good luck to everyone and whoever you are cheering for.
    What an incredibly well written post. Eloquent. Kind. I truly appreciate how well you explained yourself. I feel like you are speaking for me. In a eloquent way I just couldn't do at the time of my original post, because I wrote it in real time, as it happened. Thank you for such a gracious intelligent explanation as to why we don't all see things in the same way. You validated opposing viewpoints but also politely explained why becoming emotionally affected is equally valid. I'm also happy you mentioned the heart gesture Eddie/Eric( I can never get their names straight) made with his hands. I caught that and it made me smile. Because like you, I believe it came from a place of sincere appreciation. Again, thank you for expressing things so well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlady View Post
    I finally watched this episode....then read all the posts about it. I can understand those that feel negative about Dawn's actions but in this game you can't live by real life standards and morals. You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and sometimes that's achieved by doing some downright mean and conniving things that appalls us.
    My curiosity about Dawn is that I would think that someone who is as religious as she is, would have a problem being willing to do these kinds of things, even in a game. To me, it would be a moral dilemma. Can you throw away all that you believe in regards to treating o people in your life? I think for most people they can distinguish the difference and feel ok about stabbing someone in the back because it is a game. If you want to win, you have to know that this will most likely happen. Dawn never seems troubled by it which surprises me. Given the fact that she is so overly emotional, you'd think you'd hear her struggle with it.
    Or did I miss her doing this?
    I really liked Brenda this season and really enjoyed seeing her with her dad. He gave her wonderful advice and it made my heart happy to see an adult child listen to their parent.
    I related very much to Brenda and her father. I am lucky enough to have a wonderful Dad and a close relationship with him. So, I became emotional watching them reunite. Even Jeff commented that he was getting teary eyed for the first time in Survivor history during a family reunion. That's saying quite a lot. I too was impressed by Brenda's respect for her father's advice. How it was important to her, even as an adult, to let her father know she was being humble, as he advised. She said it more than once. To him. But also, more poignantly, at least to me, after she was voted out. Despite being momentarily crushed she rose above that shock in order to let her Dad know she had stayed humble and true to his advice, It was moving to me on a personal level to hear her essentially say, that even though she was grown up it was important for her to have her father be proud of her. It's a credit to him. Those are the moments that I remember, that stick with me. I really understood those emotions about her Dad, related to them completely.
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    Quote Originally Posted by mesachick View Post
    How could it not have anything to do with Dawn? Dawn voted her out. Of course it did. I agree you would want to sit next to her at this point, because there is no way in hell she is going to win.
    My comment was a response to the quote below. Cochran and Dawn discussed how she was liked by all especially since giving them the reward. And she could easliy win challenges so the time to get her out was right then. They couldn't risk losing the opportunity. Brenda being true to Dawn had nothing to do with it.

    Brenda got blindsided for being true to Dawn
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    Survivor: Caramoan Video - Secret Scene: Brenda - CBS.com

    This secret scene shows that Brenda had been a target for awhile, it was just a matter of time.
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    Quote Originally Posted by echo226 View Post
    This is a game! Think of it as any game.

    When you play cards ... do you decide not to play your winning hand so as not to hurt a friends feelings?
    Exactly. I can't imagine playing a game with anything other than the intent of winning. Think back to the original premise of this show, strangers dropped off somewhere with no food, no supplies, nothing but their instincts to survive on. It's morphed into a lot of different things since its inception, but basically that's still the idea. Those that are eliminated are getting in the way of others' survival. So they have to be eliminated.
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    Re: 5/8 Survivor 26 Caramoan Show Thread **West Coast Spoilers**

    Brenda is fine. Watch her Ponderosa clip. She gets the game aspect. Everyone is enjoying each other there.

    Echo, on the card game analogy. Good one. We had friends who would discard something they knew their partner needed! It was no fun to play with those who are not playing to win. We only played cards with them a few more times and even told them to please play for themselves because it isn't fun otherwise. They couldn't do it.

    I do not see Cochran as playing a cut throat game at all! He is paying close attention and making decisions to get him to the end. That is the point.
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    I like Erik, I've been rooting for his case a while, against all odds. However, I can't for a minute say I think he should win this game because he made a big heart with his arms to show gratitude.

    I think game play in a game still matters. I can't see Dawn, or Cochran, or Sherri as villians. They are probably very nice people outside of the game. I know one of them won't have anything to do with "masculine tomfoolery" and I respect that a lot more compared to what I've heard from some people in the game.

    I feel really bad for Dawn. She is being made into something she's not. I think she's made some dire mistakes in the game... and I said in her thread what those are and I won't be surprised if she doesn't win if she makes it to the final three. You can't beg and plead for someone emotionally to help your game, and then not return the favour without them getting upset. I see it as something between the players though... it's up to them to deal with and at the end of the day, Brenda getting voted out does not justify turning Dawn into a social media whipping post. I think Dawn's way of playing will cost her huge, (it already has), and in the end we have to see it's just a game. We've seen others in games not being able to let go of being blindsided, and usually we chalk it up to being bitter and poor sportsmanship. Brenda not being able to let go is not Dawn's fault. Brenda needs to mature a little if that's the case. She was quite accepting of it initially (she her ponderosa) but if she's now bitter, it's because others have given her permission to be, and that's pretty sad.

    I want to add, because I don't mean to tell people here that they don't have a right to voice their feelings about Dawn, of course they do, but it's the venom against Dawn on a whole everywhere and that she feels she has to hide from it now... that's a bit scary and overwhelming. I hope she can chalk it up to just words and move on. What little I know of Dawn, however, my guess would be she's cried even more since. I hope it ends a little better, and things can be cleared at the after show.
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