I just realized there was no thread for Survivor Live, so I thought I should create one. For those of you who can't view the archive of last week's show with Jim Lynch, here is the transcript:
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Dalton: We've got Jim Lynch here; he's going to be taking your calls. Jim, you go into this thing and think you have a 1 in 16 chance of winning the million bucks. You walk out to this temple. You see Bobby Jon and Stephenie. Did you know who they were?
Jim: I didn't. I couldn't even see up to the top of that pyramid.
Jenna: My thought is, "Why in the heck is everyone so excited to see a really strong player?" I would be pissed.
Jim: I thought, "Why are you screaming about this deal?" There are 18 of us now going for that million bucks. Come on. I was born at night, but not last night.
Dalton: So you get these guys, one on each tribe, and you set out on this 11-mile jungle hike. You're a former marine, former fire captain. You've been through serious training. How did this stack up to that?
Jim: It's probably one of the toughest things I've ever been through. I've been in house fires and grueling house fires. But in those house fires you get to take a little bit of a break and at least pull back. It was 95% humidity, 120 degrees and you're gonna go for 24 hours. And it was like up and down, and you could only move, like, 50 feet. We were moving Bobby Jon up and taking bearings on him. That's how thick it was.
Jenna: He was like a human compass.
Dalton: And it's not like you're walking on a flat road for 11 miles.
Jim: Not only that but it's a race. You don't know what the other guys are doing, if they're on your butt. And fire is a big deal. You gotta boil the water or you can't drink it. You saw the puking.
Jenna: A lot of puking.
Dalton: You always hear from all the survivors that it's so much harder than it looks. You get put in what is definitely the most grueling opening.
Jim: It's not a joke. Go to the sauna and shut the door and do jumping jacks for 24 hours. Then you can get an idea.
Jenna: When they put survivors in a jungle situation, like mine and this one, it's so hot even when you're not in the sun. Taking 4 steps is like you walked 4 miles.
Jim: It's not a breath of air.
Caller: Jim, you look like Jimmy Carter. What was your strategy for winning on Survivor?
Jim: Watch it with that Jimmy Carter stuff. When I made it through that trek, I thought I had aligned myself with my strategies because I'm a leader and I kind of fulfilled that leadership role that those kids wanted to see. It was too early to form any alliances. It wasn't happening at that point. We were trying to just survive.
Jenna: Weren't you a little bit afraid of being a leader? Rafe said, "No one wants to be the leader because the leader always gets voted out."
Jim: Not at all. I didn't really go into it looking for that million bucks. I went into it looking for the adventure. That's cake - gravy if I got the million bucks.
Dalton: To win the game there's got to be deception involved. Were you prepared to do that?
Jim: Yeah I was, if it had gotten down to that point. You know, I'm still in the tribal mode and not the individual mode.
Jenna: Was it like that with all the tribe members? Where was the strategizing? Was there any of that going on once you got back from the hike?
Jim: I'm sure there was.
Jenna: Did you notice any?
Jim: Oh, not really. We were kind of involved in getting our shelter. And Bobby Jon was a big element in helping us get the shelter and fire and that whole deal. But as far as strategizing, I don't think anybody was really into that mode. I noticed that some people would sneak around to the end of the pyramid to do their -
Jenna: Did you know that you were going to get voted off?
Dalton: Did you ask them to vote you off?
Jim: No - negative. But I knew I was toast when Margaret looked at my arm, and she's a nurse practitioner, and in that respect, getting that gossip thing around, she's telling everyone, "This guy is toast. How are we going to use him in any other challenge when he's cost us this challenge?"
Jenna: She's interesting and I feel like she's trouble because of that. You saw her with Blake, the guy who got the thorns, "He's not doing well." It's not your decision. How about you just step back and let Blake tell me if he's okay. But that may be her strategy. Tell everyone else that others are real sick and injured and then she's safe.
Dalton: You obviously thought she was, you put her name down.
Jim: I did put her name down but that's a whole other deal. We did the corn thing. There was seven kernels of corn - seven kernels of yellow corn, one kernel of black. That was the person that I was going to vote for. I can't vote for myself; I can't abstain. I have to vote for somebody. So we drew the corn and she lost. It used to be that the person who had the most votes - it counted against you. It doesn't anymore but you never know how they're going to change the game.
Jenna: Dalton, what is your opinion about bringing players back into the game?
Dalton: In theory I don't like the move because the purist in me says that if you compete once you may have an advantage because they've been through it or at a disadvantage because they stick out. But I'm sitting watching and I find myself rooting for them, for Bobby Jon and Stephenie. Don't know why.
Jenna: I was a little confused because when they showed at the top and were like, "Here's your guardian angels," everyone was like, "Ooh". I was like, "Why are you happy to get a strong player? That gives you one less chance to get the money." I would be ticked. I feel like on Survivor, unless it's All-Stars, once you lose, you lose. Same with Rupert when he won.
Jim: I agree.
Jenna: Jamie was like, "I'm not happy."
Jim: We questioned Bobby Jon when we were on the trek. We said, "You're just here to help us; you're not in the running for the million?" He said, "I'm in it for the million."
Jenna: We'll see what happens with this group, but I just feel like you had your chance and you lost.
Caller: Going into the game were you worried about being the oldest competitor and did your injury take you back? Were you surprised that you got injured so early in the game?
Jim: Going into the game with my age, I thought I might have an advantage. It can work both ways. It depends on the makeup of the tribe. It can work for you or against you. The youngest person on the tribe was 21 years old. I'm used to working with young people in the fire service and I work well with them. As far as getting injured that early, it's like any sports injury. It can happen at any time. I think the dehydration played a big part. In a trek like that we should be getting 5, 6, maybe 7 liters of water a day. We're getting one if we're lucky. Our bodies are 65% water. These tendons and muscles, they'll snap for a young guy or an old guy.
Dalton: We're been talking about this brutal trek and the after effects and the hacking of the male members of Nakum, let's go to a clip.
(clip shows of the Nakum males being sick and Bobby Jon’s dehydration madness)
Dalton: Bobby Jon appears - a strong guy - he's gonna lead you through this, then collapses, eyes rolling. It was creepy stuff.
Jim: They had, like, an anointing. Water poured over the forehead. I thought, "That should do it."
Dalton: How much is that playing in your mind as you're sitting there sick and it could be a sign of weakness? So you're trying your best to either not show it or get past it?
Jim: In all honesty, I puked once; that was it. I think it was dehydration.
Jenna: Why do you think it happened to the men?
Jim: You tell me. And why did it happen to the Nakum men and not the Yaxha men? Were we working harder?
Jenna: I thought maybe it was because the men were carrying more but the other men were carrying a lot. I'm thinking that maybe something bit you all.
Jim: I thought maybe it was something in the fruit. We had a lot of bananas which was a mistake. Don't ever take bananas on a deal like that because they all get smooshed, but take oranges, things that have a lot of liquid in them. There was some pineapple.
Caller: I was going to ask you if you thought that Nakum team carried more weight. You were given the option of what to take. Do you think you guys were harder hit than the other team?
Jim: I don't know if we bit off more than we could chew. And I don't know what they took. I know we took five 25-pound bags of corn, which to me is pig food. We never got it softened up enough to satisfaction.
Dalton: What did you leave behind?
Jim: We left some corn and a lot of fruit. That was one of our mistakes, taking all that corn. It was a burden. Some of the tough guys like Brandon, he was taking two of them. He's the farm guy from Kansas. Quiet, the salt of the earth.
Jenna: I don't feel like he's quiet. I feel like he's got something up his sleeve.
Jim: That's very possible. But, we were going to ditch one of the bags halfway through and he's going "No way."
Dalton: And he's the one person who wasn't down on his knees.
Jim: Figure it out; go figure it out.
Jenna: But I did feel sorry for Bobby Jon because he kept apologizing and he is so sweet. Such a gentleman.
Jim: It was always, "Sir," and this and that. Nice kid.
Dalton: When we first saw him on Palau we thought he was this crazy wild man.
Jenna: He's very serious in challenges, and he is a hard worker.
Jim: He's a definite hard worker.
Dalton: Talk about the trek; it's such a pivotal point in the episode. It plays into the immunity challenge because you guys are so worn out from that. Did it ever occur to you to just waltz through that and save the energy for the immunity challenge? The immunity challenges are so much more important than the rewards.
Jim: It didn't dawn on us because we thought fire and being able to boil our water - we knew we were gonna be drinking sewer water. That was our strategy, "Let's get that fire." It means so much on Survivor to have that fire, if nothing else, psychologically. We had two fires burning all the time, boiling water. That's a whole other story. I got some of the bad water when we went to Tribal Council. Judd went to one of the vases - we always kept our purified water covered. We'd filter the water through our buffs to get the maggot worms out and then boil it for 5, 6, 7, 8 minutes. Cover it and let it cool and that was our drinking water. Judd went while I was recuperating under a tree and got a ladle of water that hadn't been purified. I drink it down and Judd goes, "Oh, you know what, that's not purified."
Jenna: Maybe he did that on purpose.
Jim: If I find out that he did - I will find you at the finale, my man.
Dalton: He's right here in NYC, isn't he?
Jim: I started to get sick at tribal council. I was the last one to vote. The pyramid is up like 80 feet. I looked down and the whole thing was spinning. I thought, "If I fall, I'm dead. I will be the first person to die at tribal council."
Dalton: When you finally watched the episode last night, was there anything that surprised you?
Jim: I didn't hear anybody respond about me. They changed that. There's a few things that they changed. There were no responses and I was unanimous, - Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. Nothing like, "You're a cool guy," or, "We voted out ‘cause you're a dummy".
Jenna: They had some nice things to say.
Dalton: If you go to CBS.com, they are all there.
Jim: And you can't put the entire trek on an hour program. They left out a couple of developments that I thought would have been exciting, the raft thing. Just a time element.
Dalton: They didn't show your vote.
Dalton: So Jim, when you went on this thing, were you like, "I don't want to be the first one out" or were you one of these people that say, "I'd rather be the first one out rather than the sixth or seventh out?"
Jim: I didn't dwell on that. Do the best I can and when I go, I go. And if an accident happened, which it did, that's where the cards fell.
Jenna: When you saw that happen to Blake, too. He seemed to be in a lot of trouble because of that thorn bush. We don't know what could have happened if he got injured. That injury could have taken him out of this game. Stuff like that happens all the time to good players.
Dalton: And with a person who is healthy you really don't know what to do. Is the person going to be able to work through this or get worse and worse?
Jenna: Or like, "I cracked my ankle on a coconut; I quit."
Dalton: But Osten was very weak and he wanted to go home and they convinced him to stay but he was useless. Did you want to try to fight to stay or did you know?
Jim: I didn't want to injure myself further and to be a detriment to the tribe. I'm just not the kind of guy to say, "I want this thing to go my way and the hell with the tribe." At that point I knew that I was suffering for sure and I didn't want to injure this one (pointing to other arm) or this one (pointing to injured arm) anymore. What are the challenges going to be when they start out like this; what are they going to be tomorrow? It didn't make sense. If I could have gotten an ace bandage or something I would have given it a shot. But you get nothing, they give you nothing.
Jenna: How is your arm now?
Jim: Aw, it's not good. You see the dent in it. See how this one is nice and connected down here? This one is all drawn up right here. It just snapped, it went, “Ping.” Just instantly.
Caller: Jim, congrats for getting as far as you did. Your team won the first reward challenge and you got the better camp. What exactly consisted of the better camp? What things did you have that the other tribe didn't?
Jim: The main thing that we had was the flint and we were able to make fire right away. Psychologically, that fire is just huge. We had the jugs and some lime powder which was supposed to help soften this corn up. I didn't see it happening.
Jenna: Well, did you live in the ruins?
Jim: In the ruins - that was a bonus. For an adventurous person to be able to live in a pyramid where no one has lived for 2000 years? There are nine of us that have done that. Nobody will ever do that again. For me, as an adventure, that's huge.
Jenna: I was just excited to have shelter when it rains.
Jim: The pyramids - we really couldn't live in the pyramids. We built a shelter because it is in a national park; you have to be careful of what you do. You can't move a lot of stuff. Living in that environment was the greatest thing for me.
Dalton: My ideal camp would be as far away as possible from those screaming monkeys.
Jenna: Howler monkeys are so loud; they will wake you up at all hours of the night.
Jim: First thing in the morning and last thing at night and they are right overhead.
Caller: Jim, the 11-mile hike was really condensed on that show. I'm wondering how the group pulled together; did somebody really take charge? And how did you feel walking that far?
Jim: Everybody pulled together. You have people that lag when you have 9 people marching together. We'd have a count-off system where we knew we had everybody with us. But everybody did pull together. It was the most compelling thing to see those kids, 21 years old, which really impressed me being a 63 year-old of how well they did.
Jenna: But your tribe didn't work so well on the immunity challenge.
(clip of immunity challenge)
Jenna: It looked like Rafe was almost saying, "In your face."
Jim: He was. He had the immunity idol up like this when we were swimming back to camp. And apparently someone said something to him and he put it back down. It wasn't Rafe, it was Jamie.
Jenna: That's not a good way to start the game. I knew he looked like a little braggy-braggy.
Dalton: What about that Medusa head on the front of the canoes?
Jenna: I heard that they had these things on the sides of the boats so that they don't tip over because of the crocodiles in the water. They didn't want them to tip over.
Jim: These babies have to go 1800, 2000 pounds. These are not sissy canoes.
Dalton: If they have safe water, they make them flimsy.
Jim: They told us time and again not to go in and watch this knucklehead go in.
Jenna: Judd jumps in for what reason? I can see the crack of his butt. And then he sassed Jeff Probst. That's gonna be a show-down.
Dalton: There was a little disagreement at the beginning about how to get that torch.
Jim: I didn't want to go straight out. Why are we trying to thread that needle? Let's go on the outside. The way Bobby Jon wanted to do, which is what we did, bow to the majority, went through -
Dalton: Bobby Jon, not a good track record at winning immunity challenges on Survivor.
Jim: But that's why he came on this show, to give us advice.
Jenna: Do you want advice from two losers?
Caller: Jim, if you hadn't been injured, who do you think would have been the first one voted off? Do you think it still would have been you?
Jim: I don't think it would have been me. I performed pretty well - I'm not going to blow my own horn - I performed pretty well through that entire trek. Some of the kids didn't perform well. You're seeing guys lying flat on their backs, puking. Who are you gonna vote off?
Jenna: So you think it probably would have been Blake or Bobby Jon?
Jim: That's what I think.
Jenna: Blake doesn't seem to be getting any better. Bobby Jon, I think he can recover.
Jim: He got the anointment, though.
Jenna: He got the blessing from Sister Mary Margaret.
Caller: I'm wonder what the adjustment has been getting back to being a fireman; were you hazed for being the first one voted off the show?
Jim: I'm a retired guy but I do hang around those people. It ain’t pretty.
Jenna: It's really just puzzling to me how the women did better.
Jim: Physiologically maybe they retain water better.
Jenna: Starting the game off with an 11-mile hike changes the game. People get sick when it might not have happened.
Dalton: You had no idea who Gary Hogeboom was? That he was a former NFL quarterback?
Jim: Danni, she's a sportscaster from Kansas City. And she said, “You know, there's an NFL player on there, he's Gary Hoge-“ I said, "Not Hogeboom". She said "That's it, Hogeboom. He's on the other tribe." We'd been around looking at each other, seeing each other. And he's, as far as I know, still lying to his tribe about who he is.
Jenna: I don't know if it's smart or stupid because if he says he was an NFL quarterback, you don't need the money.
Jim: I thought about the same thing about being a firefighter because of Tom last year. Did I have a huge target on my back because I've got this firefighter union t-shirt on?
Dalton: If I were a magician's assistant I wouldn't tell anyone for pure embarrassment.
Jenna: But she was wearing sweatpants on Survivor. They are going to take hours to dry.
Jim: You're talking about Morgan.
Jenna: She was wearing Juicy Couture sweats.
Dalton: What profession were you going to tell people if not firefighter?
Jim: I had a sideline as a hazardous materials guy or a paramedic. I can talk with anyone about those two fields. I decided I'm just gonna be myself because you will slip. Hogeboom is gonna slip.
Caller: Jenna, do you feel a little slighted that Stephenie and Bobby Jon got invited back and you didn't? What about bringing back Johnny Fairplay or Sue, the truck driver?
Jenna: You don't want Johnny Fairplay back. I don't think they should have brought anybody back unless it's an All Stars. It messes with the game. You shouldn't get a second chance, you lost fair and square. I don't think Stephenie is the strongest woman to ever play Survivor. There are people who are stronger.
Dalton: What about somebody like Skupin if you're gonna bring somebody back?
Jenna: Bring somebody back who really didn't have a chance, like Skupin, who fell into the fire. Maybe you will see Fairplay on an All Stars 2 if they have one. I don't think he can go that long without drugs or alcohol.
Jim: How about bringing back someone indigenous who can help you out?
Jenna: How about bringing back someone random that nobody really cared about, like Daniel Lue?
Dalton: Every week we're going to have a mystery caller, starting next week. A former Survivor is going to call in, sharing their thoughts on the new season and giving us an update on what they're now doing. We're also going to have "Open Letter," which is the voted off castaway who might have some issues, maybe annoyed at someone for ousting them from the game. So Jim, you just sort of get some of these things off your chest.
Jenna: It's like therapy.
Dalton: Construct an open letter to the canoe. It was pulling that canoe that messed up your bicep. This is your time to vent. Tell the canoe how you felt.
Jim: Canoe, you knew that I was 63 years old going into this deal. You thought that maybe you would have shucked your outriggers just for me. You had the added weight that I had to pick that up and tear my arm up, because of your dumbass. I ain’t gonna forget this, canoe.
Caller: I have a question for Jim about the dynamics of his team. I got this girl-power vibe coming off from Margaret and Cindy and Brooke and Danni. It seems like those women are a little bit older, have careers, are a little less hesitant. Maybe they'll take the power in that tribe. I was wondering what are your thoughts on that?
Jim: I wouldn't disagree with you in that respect, especially when you've got four guys laying flat on their backs puking. Margaret is pretty tough and she's got the nurse practitioner thing going. She definitely knows her stuff.
Dalton: The guys are down on their backs and not always making the best decisions. Let's take a look.
(clip showing Judd jumping out of the boat and crawling through the mud, as well as Brandon's “premature evacuation” confessional)
Dalton: What's going on there? Is that like quicksand?
Jim: It's just like quicksand. We couldn't get him out of it.
Dalton: There may be a little bit of hostility from Judd and he may have a little bit of an attitude.
Jenna: I think he's just a New Yorker and he's, like, defensive.
Jim: He was leading some of that trek. I could give him a map of NY and he couldn't find Central Park. He needs to take his lumps. I was sick for long because of that water deal.
Jenna: We're gonna have to ask him when he's here because that could have been a strategic move from him.
Jim: If you get an affirmative answer from him, don't call me, just wait ‘til the finale.
Jenna: I might have done that.
Jim: You can't intentionally hurt someone on that show, that's one of the rules.
Dalton: You're not going to sabotage someone when you have to take on the other tribe.
Caller: Jim, what motivated you to apply for Survivor and do you have any advice to fans who are trying to get on the show?
Jim: From the get-go I've watched all the episodes during the downtime at the firehouse. I always said, "This is something I can do." My philosophy in life has always been if you don't try it and then look back 20 years and say, "Why didn't I do that?" I don't want that in my life. I tried it and I was blown away that I got on the show. My advice to you: be yourself. Send in that tape and be as bizarre as you can. Talk about stuff that you've done, stuff that you're going to do that's very exciting; that makes you an individual.
Dalton: You want to be exciting but you also want to be yourself. They'll snuff you out if you try to be someone that you're not.
Jim: You can go online and look at other people's tapes.
Caller: My question is for Jenna and Dalton. Who do you think are some of the weak players that we're gonna see on your show pretty soon?
Jenna: Yeah, ‘cause you can't answer because you know too much.
Jim: I can't.
Dalton: You see the promos and you see Blake still sick so I'm saying he's not going out or they wouldn't show it on the promo.
Jenna: It's so hard to tell right now because we saw no real strategizing. This last episode was just a lot of suffering. It's really hard to tell who the strong people are.
Dalton: I think Margaret looks very strong.
Jenna: I hope she doesn't try to be overbearing.
Dalton: I think Hogeboom looks strong.
Jenna: I think he's in trouble. I think Danni, if they ever get together; she's gonna sniff him out. You can't keep a lie that long; you're gonna slip.
Jim: As far as I know he's still lying. How would it have played out if he had told the truth about who he was?
Dalton: People, on Survivor, all you gotta do is give them an opening, a reason to vote you out. Why give them that reason? Deny, deny.
Jenna: In the first few days, just be quiet. If you're mad or angry at someone just shut up because somebody else is probably gonna not be able to take it and they're going to say what you wanted to say anyway.
Dalton: It was hard to judge from that first episode who is strong and who is weak because they didn't show any strategy. It was so much about the trek.
(clip showing Episode 2 promo)
Jenna: Do they think that eating a little ant is going to make them feel better?
Jim: Don't believe it.
Dalton: Would you eat the ants?
Jenna: I wouldn't. I ate worms on my season because they're bigger.
Dalton: Jim, thanks for being here, it was fun.
Jim's vote for Margaret was determined by picking corn, and nothing more.
Danni knows that Gary is an ex-NFL Quarterback.
Jim's arm still hasn't completely healed.
Judd gave Jim unpurified water (intentionally?).
Jim thinks taking the bananas was a mistake, and may have contributed to the men of Nakum's sickness. The corn was also extra weight that the tribe didn't really need for the hike.
Now it's time to start working on Morgan's interview...