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    Penny on CBS Morning Show

    From: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in530339.shtml
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    (CBS) With just six competitors left, the endgame is starting to take shape on Survivor: Thailand.

    Penny Ramsey, the 27-year-old pharmaceutical sales representative from Plano, Texas, was sent packing following an unusual vote at tribal council. She shared her thoughts about the game on the The Early Show.

    Penny Ramsey and Jake Billingsley were the only two surviving members of the Sook Jai tribe. Yet she turned on him and voted against him in tribal council in a strategy that backfired. She wasn't apologetic about it, either.

    "I voted for Jake, because, you know, the Chuay Gahn tribe had told me that's what I needed to do to secure myself there another three days," Ramsey told Julie Chen. "That it was going to be an interesting vote, and some people were voting for me and other people were voting for Jake, and if I wanted to stay on the island, I needed to vote for Jake. So that's what I did."

    It had appeared that Jake was being targeted as the next to go. Why, Chen asked, did she think she was voted off, and not Jake?

    "I think maybe I was seen as a bigger threat than Jake was [at the] last minute. I think maybe I was scheming a little bit, you know, more than Jake was towards the end. And so people thought that maybe I was fitting in a little bit better than he was at that time. So I think it was time for me to go," she said.

    Ramsey admitted she had been distancing herself from Billingsley, going so far as to extinguish one of his torches in the immunity challenge.

    "Well, Jake and I actually had talked about our alliance, because obviously we've had one from the very beginning. And we thought it was in our best interest, being down to two members, to distance ourselves and let Chuay Gahn see us as two separate people so that we could get further on in this game.

    " And I think it was actually kind of capped it for me when Jake and Helen went in the canoe to go get water, as you saw last night, and Jake had a conversation with Helen. And as soon as Brian and Clay had gotten back from their elephant trip, Helen went straight to Brian and Clay and said, 'I've got to talk to you guys. You do not know what Jake's been saying while y'all have been gone.' So I knew that what Jake was trying to do wasn't working because I saw it right in front of my own eyes."

    She thought that Clay Jordan was pretty sneaky - after all, he had promised to take her to the final four - but admired him and everyone else. "I think right now everybody's a good player. And I think everybody's playing the game hard, right now."

    Ramsey wasn't really sure whether any one castaway could be described as THE leader.

    "You know, from the very beginning when we did merge, it seemed like, you know, maybe Helen and Brian were, kind of, leading the tribe. But then, looking back at the immunity challenge last night, seeing the way that Ted and Jan both came after me pretty strongly, putting my fire out first, it kind of made me think that maybe they're the leaders of the tribe," she said. "So I think there is a lot of leadership going on."

    Shii Ann Huang had described Ramsey as being very manipulative and not as sweet as she appeared.

    "The thing is you can make accusations about anybody and say whatever you want. That's what Shii Ann was doing to try to keep herself in the game. Luckily, there wasn't a merge and I was able to stay on. But had I been manipulative, I think we would have seen some actions coming from me, but you never did."

    Ramsey was not a big fan of Huang and never really bonded with her, particularly after the two tribes started living together. "It was amazing to see Shii Ann. We lived with her for 18 days before the two tribes lived together. And to see, she was just a totally different person from the first minute we set foot on the islandů"

    She went on: " I think we were as nice as we could be to her and accepting of everybody out there. And maybe she just felt that she didn't fit in."

    After Huang was voted off the island, Ramsey set out to convince the Chuay Gahn tribe that she wasn't the person Huang had portrayed. "So after she was gone I took it upon myself to, I went to go talk to each one of these Chuay Gahn members and let them see the real Penny for who she is and be the sweet person that I am and a nice person, and not the manipulative person that Shii Ann left as my reputation."

    But Ramsey did have trouble talking to Ted. "He rolls his eyes a lot," she said. "Ted was actually one of the hardest people I felt to get to know there. He was one you would try to talk to. And you could never get him to talk back to you."

    But she thought it was a smart ploy - not letting the "enemy" know too much about him - advice she probably should have taken.
    "George Oscar Bluth II, aka GOB, featured magician in the best selling videotape, "Girls With Low Self Esteem" invites you to enter his world.
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    Interesting Points to Me:

    1) She and Jake had determined to seperate from each other.

    2) "But had I been manipulative, I think we would have seen some actions coming from me, but you never did." Either a Clintonesque denial, or a comfirmation of something I suspected all along.

    3) She knew to abandon Jake because Helen went immediately to Brian and Clay discussing what Jake had said to her. I didn't remember seeing it happen quite like that, but I will check the TiVo at home. If it did happen that way, then Jake is dead.

    4) I gotta admit it, she looks great outside of the Survivor world
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    You think Bill?

    I thought she looked quite different, but was wearing WAY too much makeup. She is quite pretty without it, and I think she would have looked a lot better toned down.
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    Well she was done up pretty excessively, but I just liked the look better than all the time on the island.
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    she snuffed one of jakes torches........damn, i thought the old prune jan did all three. thought that was why jake voted for her.

    penny still is a bit of a bitch in a way. i could never get along with her in that atmosphere

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    Penny's only real sin as far as I can tell was "acting" too sweet. What if she really is that sweet & it wasn't an act? I can't for the life of me recall seeing her do anything negative. Shii-Ann branded her manipulative & evil. Funny, but wasn't that most everybody's opinion of Shii-Ann?

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    I think the otehrs felt it was an act, that was the problem.
    They didn't feel she was genuine.

    I wouldn't have thought anything of it if just Shii Ann had made comments about Penny's treatment of her, but when Jake and Ken also said she treated Shii Ann badly I figured there had to be at least some grain of truth.

    Water under the bridge now though.
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    Vidcaps of Penny on the Early Show, from Survivorfever.net:

    [IMG]images/user/penny-es-1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]images/user/Penny-es-2.jpg[/IMG]

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    She is rather caked in make up, but her hair looks good.

    It must be nice for the Survivors to be able to present themselves looking clean and well groomed after seeing them look so bad for weeks.
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    She looked better without the makeup. I thought the same thing about Neleh & Elisabeth. They still look good, just different. With all the makeup, they lose their individualilty & start to look like every other blonde babe on TV.

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