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    No problem but see I have read the text and the response from Brady to people he claims not to know even their names. The fact that Brady would not even turn over his phone to them with his own attorney present as well. The offer of kicks,signed jerseys and other football stuff as payment.

    Brady did not pass the sniff test at that original press conference two months ago.i am well aware of what goes on in the NFL and it doesn't make it right because others have cheated too. MrDiva is a sports agent and his clients he has he is trying to get signed with NFL teams they go through heavy scrutiny but Brady no he can play coy and not cooperate. What message does that send out to people?
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    I have to agree with you on the Brady press conference of two months ago. I would be surprised if jury selection specialists don't come out of the woodwork saying that he is exhibiting signs of not being truthful---because I thought that from the beginning and I am no specialist.

    I just heard for the first time yesterday that he would not turn over his phone-----wow that was kept pretty quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDiva2007 View Post
    No problem but see I have read the text and the response from Brady to people he claims not to know even their names. The fact that Brady would not even turn over his phone to them with his own attorney present as well. The offer of kicks,signed jerseys and other football stuff as payment.

    Brady did not pass the sniff test at that original press conference two months ago.i am well aware of what goes on in the NFL and it doesn't make it right because others have cheated too. MrDiva is a sports agent and his clients he has he is trying to get signed with NFL teams they go through heavy scrutiny but Brady no he can play coy and not cooperate. What message does that send out to people?
    So have I. My point is every team cheats and I'm a bit fed up with the press focusing on the Pats. Clean up the league, call for the heads of The Falcons, The Colts, The Seahawks and so on and I won't complain.
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    If the Pats would not continue to be repeat offenders then maybe attention would stay off them. They come across to the public outside of the local area as entitled Prima Donna's. Just from the disdain these two ballboys show it apparently happens with the staff too. Others cheat too is not a explanation.
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    Others cheat too is not an explanation - but it is a statement of reality. There is so much money tied into being a championship team that every team is going to push it to the absolute limit in order to have an edge. So saying the Pats should not continue to be repeat offenders is not really an explanation of the attention put on them. All teams in the NFL are repeat offenders. So the attention is going to the Patriots for some other reason.

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    http://yourteamcheats.com/
    All the cheating and bending of the rules catalogued here. No NFL team is innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsox girl View Post
    http://yourteamcheats.com/
    All the cheating and bending of the rules catalogued here. No NFL team is innocent.
    You know what my mom used to say when I said everyone is doing something? So if everyone is jumping off a roof are you going to also? Cheating is wrong right now we are not talking about everyone we are talking about and the focus is on the Patriots and Brady! If the Nfl then wants to go after all the other cheaters then they need to be dealt with all so. I mean goodness lots of people are murdering folks so I guess we all should give it a hand,lol
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    The point about other teams was not brought up to defend the Patriots. It was brought up in response to the suggestion that the Patriots are the pet pony of the NFL. When the question at hand is whether the Patriots get favorable or unfavorable treatment from the NFL, the frequency with which all teams cheat is absolutely relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDiva2007 View Post
    No problem but see I have read the text and the response from Brady to people he claims not to know even their names. The fact that Brady would not even turn over his phone to them with his own attorney present as well. The offer of kicks,signed jerseys and other football stuff as payment.

    Brady did not pass the sniff test at that original press conference two months ago.i am well aware of what goes on in the NFL and it doesn't make it right because others have cheated too. MrDiva is a sports agent and his clients he has he is trying to get signed with NFL teams they go through heavy scrutiny but Brady no he can play coy and not cooperate. What message does that send out to people?
    It's entirely possible he wouldn't know the name of every one of the Patriots' hundreds of employees, many of whom he sees maybe ten times a year when the Pats are playing home games.

    It's also very common for players to "tip" people who handle their equipment, for a variety of reasons. So an assistant of someone who he directly deals with might expect to share in a tip for extra work.

    I think they've established that Brady likes footballs at a lower inflation level. What hasn't been established, and is just speculation - mostly from the vast numbers of people out there who are tired of seeing the Patriots win all the time - is whether he likes them lower than 12.5 psi.

    As for Mr. Diva, maybe if he didn't spend time complaining about how a player who has given his team Hall-of-Fame caliber performances for more than a decade is already vetted, he'd get clients with more potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDiva2007 View Post
    You know what my mom used to say when I said everyone is doing something? So if everyone is jumping off a roof are you going to also? Cheating is wrong right now we are not talking about everyone we are talking about and the focus is on the Patriots and Brady! If the Nfl then wants to go after all the other cheaters then they need to be dealt with all so. I mean goodness lots of people are murdering folks so I guess we all should give it a hand,lol

    So to summarize you don't care about other teams cheating repeatedly because The NFL isn't interested in them. The only cheating that deserves punishment is the cheating done by the Patriots?
    So really, cheating is okay. Unless the Pats are cheating. Because again, the NFL is focused on them rather than all the other cheating teams.
    Cheating is wrong-whether you are in first place or last place. It's not less worse because your team is lousy.
    I'm a Pats fan. I will not defend their cheating. It is wrong.But, I think it's silly for fans who hate The Patriots to downplay the rampant cheating done by their own teams. You can't objectively damn the Pats if you aren't willing to acknowledge other teams are as guilty as The Pats. Otherwise it comes across as sour grapes rather than genuine moral outrage.
    I don't understand your moms analogy in relation to an entire league actively cheating year after year. Seems they all jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge? So, they are all guilty. Right?
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