Major League Baseball 2009

[PugMum]

I'm not surprised about Manny. He makes MILLIONS off of the "little people" that have gone into debt buying season tickets to him play and this is how he thanks them? 50 games will cost him a mere $8 million of the $25 million he will receive this season. BIG DEAL.
Make an example out of him. Ban him for five years from MLB, AFTER he repays the Dodgers for anyone wanting a refund on tickets.

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[MissThing]

Originally Posted by PugMum

Make an example out of him. Ban him for five years from MLB, AFTER he repays the Dodgers for anyone wanting a refund on tickets.

Then they'd have to ban everyone who tests positive for five years. Not going to happen, I don't think.

[sweet_lady]

This sucks, I was actually starting to root for the Dodgers, mainly because of Joe Torre (he's the man, the Yankee's should have never got rid of him).

Source: Ramirez's substance a sexual enhancer - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Source: Ramirez’s substance a sexual enhancer
By Tim Brown and Steve Henson
2 hours, 24 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES – A source close to Manny Ramirez(notes) said Thursday that the illegal substance for which the Los Angeles Dodgers slugger tested positive was not “an agent customarily used for performance enhancing.”

At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the substance is supposed to boost sex drive.

Two sources said Ramirez tested positive for a gonadotropin. Major League baseball’s list of banned substances includes the gonadotropins LH and HCG, which are most commonly used by women as fertility drugs. They also can be used to trigger testosterone production. Testosterone is depleted by steroid use, which can cause sexual dysfunction.

“Testosterone and similar drugs are effective for erectile dysfunction in that they jazz up your sex drive,” said Charles Yesalis, a professor at Penn State who has testified before Congress on issues of performance-enhancing drugs. “But far more clinicians accept that affect with Viagra and Cialis. It’s hard for me to understand if it was erectile dysfunction why they would use it.”


Ramirez tested positive for the substance during spring training, then was administered a second test more recently, and it also was positive. Major League Baseball notified Ramirez of the second positive test after Wednesday night’s Dodgers victory over the Washington Nationals. Ramirez admitted to having taken the substance and declined to appeal. His 50-game suspension begins today.

“The substance is not a steroid and it is not human-growth hormone,” the source said.

Ramirez, the source said, acquired the substance through a prescription from a doctor in Miami for his medical condition. The source intimated that Ramirez might bring legal action against the physician.

Ramirez released the following statement Thursday morning: “Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was okay to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons.

The Dodgers, who have won a Major League record 13 consecutive home games to start the season, will be without Ramirez until July 3. Outfielder Xavier Paul was promoted from triple-A to take Ramirez’s place on the roster. The suspension will cost Ramirez close to $8 million in lost wages.


Drugs or hormones that increase testosterone production often show up on banned lists.

[MissThing]

From what I understand, this is a female fertility drug. It's often taken by people coming off a steriod cycle, because the steriod cycle inhibits the production of the body's testosterone. As the day goes on, it's looking worse and worse for the Manram.

[PugMum]

Originally Posted by MissThing

Then they'd have to ban everyone who tests positive for five years. Not going to happen, I don't think.

Then they ban everyone that tests positive. There are SO MANY young guns waiting in the wings that are willing to obey the rules. I say get rid of the scum and bring in the clean ones!

[MissThing]

Originally Posted by PugMum

Then they ban everyone that tests positive. There are SO MANY young guns waiting in the wings that are willing to obey the rules. I say get rid of the scum and bring in the clean ones!

I doubt this, and I doubt this quite a bit. The young guns are doing the same thing. It's the culture of the game. These guys feel they need to cheat in order to keep up, and it's a shame.

Add to that, there is no stronger players union anywhere. It just isn't going to happen. While I don't condone cheating, and am down on the whole sport as a result, one has to be realistic. These guys, yes, even Manny and A-Rod, sell tickets, and it's a business. I'd just leave it at nobody ever signing them again (too bad Manny's next year is his option). I'd be fine with that.

[Bunny555]

Originally Posted by MissThing

I'm a Boston homer, but I can't let that blind me, I'd be stunned to find out they didn't know. Sadly, I'm sure there are other Red Sox that are either currently cheating, or have in the past (Jason Varitek, I'm looking at you).

Same here and since Trot's been gone Tek is my guy and I'd be devasted if he turned up positive. If we go by his AB's over the last couple of seasons, I'd say that he's in the clear.

[lildago]

Anyone see John Lackey's ejection from yesterday's game after just two pitches? As a Rangers fan, it was fun to watch. For a second, I thought Scioscia would be tossed as well.

[MissThing]

Originally Posted by lildago

Anyone see John Lackey's ejection from yesterday's game after just two pitches? As a Rangers fan, it was fun to watch. For a second, I thought Scioscia would be tossed as well.

He deserved to get tossed, from the highlights I saw on ESPN. Granted, it's not the whole thing, there, but it was enough. I do like Mike, but, seriously, that was blatant.

[sweet_lady]

3 straight walkoff games for the Yankees (Melky on Friday, ARod yesterday, and Damon today). They haven't done that since 1972. Teixera had an awesome play today to save the go ahead run from scoring in the 8th.