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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    he should not be banned definetely to play in the NFL.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    ^^ He may not get officially banned, but I bet it gets as close to being Black Balled as anyone ever has.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    Quote Originally Posted by jacobson00;2546297;
    he should not be banned definetely to play in the NFL.
    I'm not sure he actually can be banned (or, rather, that the Commissioner wants to do that, right now). If he doesn't stay on the Falcons' roster, as I understand it, they cannot get any of that $22MM in signing bonuses that the team now wants back. Obviously, if he's outright banned, at this time, that messes with the team, and I don't think that the Commissioner wants to do that.
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    Re: NFL Indefinitely Suspends Michael Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by razorbacker;2546197;
    The NFL was waiting to see just exactly what he was going to plead to before they issued their punishment. The Falcons had to wait on the NFL before they were freed up to go after the leftover signing bonus money.
    I still, and will probably always, think that the NFL should have done something more earlier. I'm glad they acted but I still think the commissoner was hypocritical in his handling of this.
    Of course who expects someone to pull something so utterly disgusting.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    I hope they don't suspend him forever though, he doesn't deserve that.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsonator;2550162;
    I hope they don't suspend him forever though, he doesn't deserve that.
    I bet there would be a whole bunch of dogs that felt as though they didn't deserve to be wet down & electrocuted, or hung, or beat to death. But then they are dead & have no voice in the proceedings. Wasn't it nice that Vick all of a sudden found Jesus just when the public was on him the worst? What a hypocrite. I think he deserves permanant banishment.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    I agree, razorbacker, and I think any team would be foolish to sign him since most of their fans would be outraged.

    Yesterday, Mike Ditka said it best. I'm probably paraphrasing a bit, but it was something like, "These players need to realize that playing in the NFL is not a right, it's a privilege."
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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    Last night ESPN had a town hall style show that was loaded with Vick supporters. Of course it was in Atlanta where he play(ed). They were very vocal in the support of him and the belief that he was being unfairly targeted. What would those same fans say now to his positive marijuanna test a month ago. World crashing down around him and he can't lay off the drugs? Commissioner Godell has be happy to hear the latest.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    Vick is now also being sued by a Bank in Canada for failure to repay a loan he took out. They claim that his situation is preventing him from paying. They are asking for over $2.3 million plus $499 per day in interest. Now here is a guy with well over $100 million in signed contracts & he is taking out loans? That one loses me, I don't get it.

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    Re: Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case

    ESPN - PETA: Vick took class on preventing animal cruelty - NFL

    PETA says Vick took, passed course on preventing animal cruelty
    By Wright Thompson
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    Updated: October 2, 2007, 3:20 PM ET

    Michael Vick recently accepted an invitation from PETA and attended an eight-hour course on animal cruelty at the group's Virginia headquarters, according to the animal-rights group.

    PETA assistant director Dan Shannon said when Vick completed the course, he was given material to take home and study. Shannon said Vick returned to the offices on a later day to take a test on the things he'd learned, which he passed. Though PETA officials are still pressing for jail time for Vick, Shannon did say everyone was impressed with the seriousness with which Vick approached his classes.

    "He seemed nervous at first," Shannon said, "but he seemed really interested."

    Vick's attorneys were not immediately available to comment on PETA's account of Vick's attending the class. The NFL also did not immediately return a call for comment.

    Vick, the disgraced Atlanta Falcons quarterback, faces up to five years in prison and awaits sentencing after pleading guilty in a federal dogfighting case. He is scheduled to be sentenced Dec. 10. He recently was ordered confined to his Virginia home after testing positive for marijuana -- a violation of the conditions of his release while awaiting sentencing. The urine sample was submitted Sept. 13, according to federal court records.

    Vick also has been indicted on state charges of beating or killing or causing dogs to fight other dogs and engaging in or promoting dogfighting. Each felony is punishable by up to five years in prison. His arraignment on those charges is set for Oct. 3.

    Vick's representatives were first approached by PETA president Ingrid Newkirk. After an initial exploratory meeting involving Vick, Newkirk and Shannon, the quarterback agreed to attend a class, which he did on Sept. 18, PETA said.

    According to PETA, Vick's day was specifically planned for him, and it focused on animal protection and empathy. First, he was given an overview of animal protection, then a session that laid out the scientific evidence for animals' ability to feel happiness, sadness and pain.

    In the initial meeting, PETA said Vick had mentioned wanting to speak to school children, so he was shown the program they normally do at schools. He saw police training tapes that describe links between violence toward animals and violence toward humans. An entire session was based on Christian teachings about the treatment of animals.

    "He seemed to get the most out of that," Shannon said. "He was blown away by how much the Bible had to say about animals."

    Because of the impact PETA officials think the course had on Vick, Shannon sent a letter on Tuesday to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell asking him to make a similar course mandatory for all NFL players.


    Wright Thompson is a senior writer for ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine. He can be reached at wrightespn@gmail.com.
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