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    Basketball 2006

    The preseason starts this week and the regular season stars in November.

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    The regular season starts tonight with Chicago at Miami and Pheonix vs the Lakers.

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    Ok, so whoda thunk that the Jazz would have the best record in the league?

    (Ok, I know it is only 8 games in but I had to say it because it is cool)
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    All the teams in the Eastern conferences Atlantic division have sub 500 records.

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    Yeah there aren't really any teams in the East with great records and in the West, Dallas and San Antonio and Utah's doing really good, I'm hoping to see the Cavaliers win it this year.

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    Call it Basketbrawl, version 2.0.

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    Nuggets, Knicks in wild brawl near end of game
    By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer
    December 17, 2006

    NEW YORK (AP) -- The NBA has another ugly scene to recover from. This one involved its leading scorer and happened in its most famous arena.

    Denver's Carmelo Anthony and the other nine players on the court at the time were ejected for fighting during a wild brawl between the Nuggets and Knicks, triggered in part by a New York team that felt it was being shown up on its home floor.

    Multiple players, including Anthony, threw punches, and New York's Nate Robinson and Denver's J.R. Smith -- fouled hard by Mardy Collins on the play that started the brawl -- flew into the first row of the crowd while fighting during the NBA's scariest scene since Indiana players fought with Detroit fans in 2004.

    Smith had a red mark along the left side of his face, but there were no other injuries among the players. No fans were directly involved, even after the fighting spilled into the seats.

    According to the Knicks, the whole thing happened because the Nuggets still had their starters on the floor with 1:15 left and a 19-point lead. Denver won 123-100.

    "They just wanted to embarrass us," Robinson said. "It was a slap in the face to us. As a team, as a franchise, we weren't going to let that happen. A clean, hard foul happened and after that it went down from there."

    The foul wasn't clean at all. Collins grabbed Smith around the neck as he was going in for a breakaway layup. Anthony and Robinson quickly jumped in, and the melee went from one end of the court all the way to the other.

    Anthony threw a punch at Collins, and now awaits what will surely be strong punishment from a league still trying to repair its image after the melee in Auburn Hills, Mich.

    "Something's going to happen, but we shall see and wait," Anthony said. "I don't really want to comment on that right now."

    The NBA didn't, either. Spokesman Tim Frank said the league would "review the incident in its entirety. Until then, it would not be appropriate to comment."

    But the players can expect a harsh penalty with the brawl happening at Madison Square Garden, right in the hometown of NBA headquarters.

    "I feel bad for the league, I feel bad for the Denver Nuggets and the New York Knicks," Nuggets coach George Karl said. "Very poor display of respecting basketball and respecting the game in the best place in the world to play basketball."

    There had previously been some bad blood between Karl and Knicks coach Isiah Thomas over the handling of the Larry Brown firing. Karl and Brown are close friends.

    But Karl wouldn't talk about why he had his starters on the floor late in a blowout, in the closing minutes of a back-to-back that closed a five-game road trip.

    Denver Nuggets' Carmelo Anthony (15) gestures to the New York Knicks bench as he leaves the court after a fight broke out during the second half of basketball action at Madison Square Garden in New York , Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006. All 10 players on the court at the time were tossed for their involvement in the incident that spread across the court and spilled into the crowd at Madison Square Garden. The Nuggets won the game, 123-100.

    Thomas said he even told Anthony that he never should have been in the game at the time.

    "I just said to him, 'You know, you're up 20, you're up 19 with a minute and half to go, you and (Marcus) Camby really shouldn't be in the game right now,"' Thomas said. "We had surrendered, those guys shouldn't even be in the game at that point in time."

    After the hard foul by Collins, Smith got up and jawed with Collins and Robinson jumped in to yell at Smith -- who had thrown down a reverse dunk on a fast break minutes earlier.

    "They were having their way with us," Thomas said. "I think J.R. Smith had just made one dunk when he reversed and spun in the air. And I think Mardy didn't want our home crowd to see that again. So he fouled him."

    Anthony rushed in and pushed Robinson in the neck, triggering the roughest moment, when Robinson and Smith went flying into the stands while fighting with each other. Anthony then threw his punch at Collins, then backed away toward the center of the court.

    New York's Jared Jeffries ran from the baseline toward Anthony, but was tackled by a Denver player. The brawl stretched to the other end of the court toward the Nuggets' bench before coaches and security finally pulled Smith away and restored order.

    Smith was yelling as he was escorted back to the locker room, unsure why Collins fouled him as hard as he did.

    "I don't even know," Smith said. "That's the first time I ever seen the dude."

    Camby, Andre Miller, Eduardo Najera, Smith and Anthony were the Nuggets who were ejected; Channing Frye, David Lee, Collins, Robinson and Jeffries were the Knicks who were kicked out.

    "Clearly this isn't how we or the NBA wants to be perceived," Thomas said. "It should have been a foul and the guy takes two free throws and maybe some words, but it shouldn't have escalated. This isn't even a rivalry."

    Highlights of the fight were on in NBA locker rooms around the league, and players stopped buttoning their shirts or paused mid-sentence during interviews to see what happened.

    "Obviously, it's unfortunate. You never want to see that. It just doesn't belong in the NBA," said Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki, who saw clips of the brawl shortly after the Mavericks had won in New Orleans. "Hopefully we can all forget about it as soon as we can."

    New York Knicks' Nate Robinson, left, fights Denver Nuggets' J.R. Smith, right, during the second half of basketball action at Madison Square Garden in New York, Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006. Ten players, including NBA scoring leader Carmelo Anthony, were ejected for fighting during a wild brawl near the end of Saturday night's game between the Denver Nuggets and New York Knicks. All 10 players on the court at the time were tossed for their involvement in the incident that spread across the court and spilled into the crowd at Madison Square Garden.

    With each team forced to put five new players on the floor, Denver finished up the win and ended a two-game losing streak. Camby had 24 points and nine rebounds, and Miller added 12 points and 10 assists.

    Anthony was in the midst of a superb second half, having scored 23 points in 23 minutes after halftime. He finished with 34.

    Camby, a former Knicks center, added seven blocked shots, and the Nuggets shot a season-best 57 percent from the field.

    Stephon Marbury had his best game of the season for the Knicks, scoring a season-high 31 points and adding eight assists. Eddy Curry had 19 points, Robinson scored 17, and Lee finished with 12 points and 15 rebounds.

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    I don't follow the NBA much, but I am saddened by this whole thing. These guys need to control their emotions on the court. Sure, the Nuggets' starters should not have been in the game, but it doesn't deserve a hard foul like that.

    I'm also outraged at Isaiah Thomas' warning Camby and Carmelo to not go into the paint. Isaiah says he meant it as "don't contribute to poor sportsmanship", but I think he knew there was going to be a hard foul thrown...possibly even at his instruction. That's despicable.

    Lots of suspensions...Carmelo gets 15 games! He issued a very heartfelt apology and took full responsibility for his actions. At least he owned up, unlike Collins, who doesn't regret throwing the clothesline foul at all.
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    I was shocked when I seen Carmello Anthony hit that guy, and then he ran away like a little girl.

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    The Denver Nuggets have acquired G Allen Iverson and F Ivan McFarlin from the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for G Andre Miller, F Joe Smith and two first round draft picks, team Vice President of Basketball Operations Mark Warkentien announced today.
    “This is an exciting day for the Denver Nuggets,” said Warkentien. “It’s not often that you have a chance to acquire a talent like Allen Iverson. No one plays with more passion, desire and a will to win than A.I. We want to thank our owner and leader, Stan Kroenke, for once again showing his commitment to bringing an NBA championship contender to Denver. We think this move takes us one step closer to that ultimate goal. We want to thank Andre and Joe for everything they’ve done for the Nuggets. Andre is playing at an All-Star level right now and Joe is the consummate professional. It’s tough to see guys like that go.”

    Iverson, 6-0, 165, has averaged 31.2 ppg in 15 games this season - second in the NBA only to new teammate Carmelo Anthony (31.6). He has averaged 28.1 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.9 rpg and 2.33 spg in 697 games during his 11-year career – all with the 76ers. He has led the NBA in scoring four times (2004-05, 2001-02, 2000-01, 1998-99), joining Michael Jordan (10), Wilt Chamberlain (seven) and George Gervin (four) as the only players in NBA history to capture four or more scoring titles.

    Iverson has averaged more than 30 ppg in a season four times, including a career-best 33.0 ppg in 2005-06. His career scoring average is the third-highest in NBA history and he ranks 32nd on the NBA’s all-time scoring list with 19,583 points. He has appeared in 62 career playoff games, averaging 30.6 ppg, 6.1 apg, 4.2 rpg and 2.19 spg. He helped the 76ers reach the 2001 NBA Finals, where they fell to the L.A. Lakers in five games.

    Iverson’s list of accolades is long and distinguished. He was named 2001 NBA MVP and has been named All-NBA seven times (three First Team: 1999, 2001, 2005; three Second Team: 2000, 2002, 2003; one Third Team: 2006). He has appeared in seven All-Star Games (starting each one) and was twice named All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005).

    In addition, he holds 19 NBA Player of the Week honors and was a co-captain for Team USA at the 2004 Olympics in Athens, Greece.

    McFarlin, 6-8, 240, has averaged 1.4 ppg in 11 games as a rookie with the 76ers this season.

    Miller signed with the Nuggets as a free agent on Aug. 1, 2003. He averaged 13.0 ppg, 9.1 apg, 4.5 rpg and 1.61 spg in 23 games for the Nuggets this season. In three-plus seasons in Denver, Miller averaged 14.0 ppg, 7.3 apg and 4.3 rpg. He has played in all 269 possible games with the Nuggets and his consecutive games played streak of 309 ranks as the second-longest active streak in the NBA. He has averaged 14.1 ppg, 7.6 apg and 4.2 rpg in 594 career games with the Nuggets, L.A. Clippers and Cavaliers.

    Smith was acquired in a trade with Milwaukee on Aug. 10, 2006. He has averaged 5.1 ppg and 3.6 rpg in 11 games with the Nuggets this season. The 12-year veteran has averaged 12.3 ppg and 7.1 rpg in 762 career games with six different teams.

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    I'd say the nuggets will have some trouble having two of the league's highest scorers on the team.

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