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    Breaking news on cnn.com right now (so no link yet, as no article) states that Floyd Landis has failed a drug test.

    More to come.....

    Oh, here's a quickie article on si.com

    LONDON (AP) -- Tour de France champion Floyd Landis tested positive for high levels of testosterone during the race, his Phonak team said Thursday on its Web site.

    The statement came a day after cycling's world governing body said an unidentified rider had failed a drug test during the Tour.

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    I still don't want to believe that it is true and that there is a natural cause for Landis' high levels of testosterone. I have a feeling though, that even if the second sample has a negative result, there will be some doubt. Either his win is tainted or his win is taken away from him. A sad result to what was an inspirational story.
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    Things aren't looking so good for Floyd. If he is stripped of the Tour title, the person I feel most sorry for is Oscar Pereiro. He'll officially get the win without any of the ceremony. Part of the thrill of winning the Tour is standing in Paris on the Champs-Elysees in the yellow jersey and, if Landis cheated, Oscar was robbed of his moment.

    Paper: Landis had synthetic testosterone

    NEW YORK - Tests show that some of the testosterone in Floyd Landis' system at the Tour de France was synthetic and not naturally produced by his body as he claimed, according to a newspaper report.

    The French antidoping lab testing the American cyclist's samples determined that some of the hormone came from an external source, The New York Times reported on its Web site Monday night, citing a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the result.

    The finding undermines the defense that Landis has stood behind since he tested positive for an elevated ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone following the 17th stage of the Tour de France, where he staged a stirring comeback in the Alps to make up for a poor performance the day before.

    Looking and sounding defiant, Landis said Friday that his body's natural metabolism not doping of any kind caused the result, and that he would undergo tests to prove it.

    "We will explain to the world why this is not a doping case but a natural occurrence," Landis said at a news conference in Madrid, Spain.

    But after determining that Landis's ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone was more than twice the limit of 4:1, the lab performed a carbon isotope ratio test on the first of Landis's two urine samples, the person told the Times.

    That test determines whether the testosterone it is natural or synthetic.

    Landis officially requested the testing of his backup urine sample Monday for an elevated testosterone ratio. If the "B" test is negative, Landis would be cleared. If it's positive, which Landis' lawyers say they expect, he could be stripped of his Tour victory and banned for two years.

    The Times reported that Landis was in New York on Monday night and could not be reached for comment.
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    It's not looking good for Floyd. Tyler Hamilton once rode for team Phonak as well and he's finishing up his two year suspension. Coincidence?

    This really sours his great come from behind ride in the Alps. It just boggles my mind how much of an idiot you can be for taking that risk. If you win the stage and/ or a yellow jersey holder, you're getting tested. While money and team name exposure is the biggest thing, I would think you'd have to weigh the risk of being caught, especially if you have a shot at being a podium finisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedbump View Post
    It just boggles my mind how much of an idiot you can be for taking that risk.
    Especially if you have a stage like Landis did where he pulled up from 11th place and a crummy ride the day before. He rode like he had a rocket booster on his bike. How on earth could he not expect to be tested?
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    damn the frenchs! you should have seen the french news

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    Next Landis Test Result Is Due Saturday

    By JAMEY KEATEN
    The Associated Press

    PARIS —

    Tour de France champion Floyd Landis is expected to learn the results of his second doping test Saturday, and even if that sample is positive it could take weeks to decide if he will be stripped of his title.

    Analysis of the "B" sample is expected to take place Thursday through Saturday at the Chatenay-Malabry lab outside Paris, the International Cycling Union said Tuesday.

    If the "B" sample is negative, Landis would be cleared. If it is positive, which his lawyers expect, he could be stripped of his Tour victory and banned for two years. Landis could become the first Tour winner to lose the title in a doping case.

    He will be given "due process" to defend himself before an arbitration panel _ which could delay any possible penalties _ if he continues to deny the allegations, UCI president Pat McQuaid said.

    "It could take weeks," McQuaid told The Associated Press by telephone. If the test is confirmed, no penalties could be decided "until the disciplinary process is completed."

    It could take even longer if the case goes to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

    Landis tested positive for an unusually high ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone following the 17th stage of the Tour de France, where he staged a remarkable comeback in the Alps to make up for a poor performance the day before.

    The American cyclist has insisted that his body's natural metabolism _ not doping _ caused the result, and said he would undergo further tests to prove it.

    The New York Times reported Monday that tests on Landis' "A" sample show some of the testosterone in his system was synthetic, putting his defense into question. The report cited a person at the UCI with knowledge of the result.

    McQuaid said he had not seen the lab findings, and could not confirm the news report. He and other UCI officials said the union's rule book restricts release of such information.

    "It's big news, certainly, but it doesn't change the protocol," McQuaid said. "It's not our policy to give out details about such cases."

    UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani insisted the results of the test are confidential and no one at the governing body would have leaked results to the Times.

    Landis' personal doctor, Dr. Brent Kay, of Temecula, Calif., said he hoped the results of Landis's carbon isotope ratio test and of the initial T/E test were false positives, the Times said. He did, however, acknowledge that the initial test found a ratio of 11:1 in Landis's system. He and Landis are seeking an explanation for that high level.

    The results were expected to be released Saturday morning, Carpani said. The UCI asked the French lab to speed up its analysis before it closes for the holidays, officials said.

    "The longer it goes until the 'B' sample is tested, the more speculation, and the more denial and the more of everything that goes on," McQuaid said.

    Landis' lawyers in Spain filed an official request for the "B" test late Monday. The UCI had already filed its own request earlier Monday because of concerns about the case dragging on.

    Landis' Swiss-based team, Phonak, said it wants the results as quickly as possible.

    "The sooner that's done, the better it will be for the team," said Phonak team manager John Lelangue, who declined to answer any other questions.

    On Friday, Landis said he would "explain to the world why this is not a doping case but a natural occurrence."

    But after determining that Landis' ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone was more than twice the limit of 4:1, the lab performed a carbon isotope ratio test on the first of Landis' two urine samples to determine whether it's natural or synthetic, the Times reported.

    UCI lawyer Philippe Verbiest confirmed that an isotope test had taken place, but refused to indicate the ratio or provide any other details of the first lab test.

    Oscar Pereiro of Spain, the Tour de France runner-up, would be declared the winner if Landis loses the Tour de France title.

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    Associated Press writer Jean-Luc Courthial in Paris contributed to this report.
    Initial tests came out to a ratio of 11:1????!!!!!

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    what does it mean 11:1?

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    It is a ratio. 2:1 would mean "two to one ratio" as in double the amount of the left side to the right side.

    11:1 means "eleven to one ratio" of testosterone to epitestosterone which means he had eleven times as much testosterone in his urine as he did epitestosterone. A ratio of 1.5 to 1 for those substances is common in male athletes. Having an 11 to 1 ratio suggests (most would say "proves") Landis took synthetic testosterone.
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    wow! i am sure he tasted just a little

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