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    It's sad that a guy like Timmy makes less than nutcases like Sprewelll, but what can you do. I've been ultra-impressed with the Spurs. I have been surprised at their toughness with a team like Detroit who plays with so much intensity. I'm still pulling for the Piston's (love that Rip Hamilton).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ana Bannana
    Yep - I'm afraid you're right about that. Guess I will have to drown my sorrows on Tuesday night while the fans in Texas are celebrating their victory. Shame on me for giving up, but Detroit was in a must win situation.
    Anything is possible. Let's not forget what happened to the Red Sox last year.

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    NBA & Players avoid lockout, reach agreement:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2091539

    League to announce agreement before Game 6ESPN.com news services


    NEW YORK -- NBA owners and players agreed to a new collective-bargaining agreement Tuesday, averting the possibility of a lockout.

    The league called a news conference Tuesday afternoon in San Antonio before Game 6 of the NBA Finals, with commissioner David Stern and union director Billy Hunter set to announce their agreement, ESPN Insider Chad Ford has confirmed.

    The deal came on the fourth consecutive day of talks between the sides. The league's old seven-year agreement is due to expire on June 30.

    Another lockout could have begun July 1.


    The new six-year deal would implement a number of rules changes, several of which were principally agreed to on Monday night, according to Ford.

    The highlights of the agreement include:

    Notable active players who weren't 19 when drafted:

    Jermaine O'Neal 1996 1 (17)
    Blazers 10/13/78

    Kobe Bryant 1996 1 (13)
    Hornets 8/23/78

    Tracy McGrady 1997 1 (9)
    Raptors 5/24/79

    Al Harrington 1998 1 (25)
    Pacers 2/17/80

    LeBron James 2003 1 (1)
    Cavs 12/30/84

    Dwight Howard 2004 1 (1)
    Magic 12/8/85

    Others under 19 on draft night: Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler, Darius Miles and Josh Smith.

    A 19-year-old age minimum OR one year out of high school would be implemented for entry into the NBA draft, ESPN's Ric Bucher reports. Players who are not 19 by draft night would be ineligible to declare for the draft. Under current rules, American players are eligible for the draft the year their high school class graduates. Foreign players must be 18 by draft night.

    Contract lengths would be reduced one year. Currently, players can sign a fully guaranteed contract for a maximum of seven years if they re-sign with their current team. Players signing with a new team in free agency can sign a six-year deal. Under the new proposal, maxiumum contract lengths would shorten to five years for players signing with new teams and six years for players re-signing with their current team.

    Raises in contracts would be reduced. Under the current CBA, players are allowed maximum raises of 12.5 percent per year if they re-sign with their current team and 10 percent if they sign with a different team in free agency. Under the new proposal, raises would be reduced to 10 percent if a player re-signs with his current team and 8 percent if he signs with a different team in free agency.

    Under the revamped drug policy, all players could be randomly tested four times each season.

    It was not immediately clear if several other elements, which had been proposed Monday night, were included in Tuesday's agreement.

    If the proposal from Monday night were to be ratified in its entirety, the new CBA also would dictate:

    Teams would pick up an extra option year on rookie contracts. Currently, first-round picks are tied into a league salary scale. When a first-round pick signs a contract, the first three years are guaranteed, with a team option for the fourth year. Players are paid a set amount based on where they were selected in the draft. Under the proposed new rules, first-round picks would get the first two years of their contract guaranteed. The third and fourth years of the contract would be team options.

    Under Monday's proposal, owners would in return make the following concessions to the players:

    Total player salaries would be guaranteed. The proposed agreement guarantees that players receive a minimum of 57 percent of basketball-related income (BRI) in the form of salaries each year.

    The salary cap would increase. The current CBA bases the salary cap on BRI. The cap is set at 48 percent of BRI; last year, that came to $43.87 million per team. According to sources, the owners would agree to increase that percentage to 51 percent, in effect raising the salary cap. Sources say the cap would, in that case, rise to between $47 million and $50 million next season.

    Escrow would be reduced and distribution of escrow monies modified. Currently, players must pay 10 percent of their salaries into an escrow account each season. If, at season's end, the total amount of player salaries exceeds 57 percent of the league's total basketball-related income, that money goes to the owners whose teams stay below the luxury-tax threshold (and a few that fall within a certain "cliff threshold"). If it doesn't exceed 57 percent, the players get their money back. Under the proposed agreement, that number would be slowly phased down to 8 percent by the end of the agreement.

    There is potentially another significant development in this area. Under current rules, the NBA has sole discretion over the use of the escrow money. Currently, it redistributes the cash (and luxury-tax revenues) to teams that are under the luxury-tax threshold. In essence, Clippers owner Donald Sterling gets a bonus for being cheap. Under the proposed agreement, distribution rules would be changed so that luxury-tax revenues would now be distributed equally among all 30 teams.

    No super luxury tax. Owners had been pushing for a "super tax" for teams that exceed the salary cap by more than a certain percentage. The teams would be penalized $2 for every dollar they were over the tax threshold. However, the owners dropped their demand for a super tax under the newest proposal.

    The agreement still will need to be ratified by the league's Board of Governors and by the members of the players' union at their annual meeting in Las Vegas next week.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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    Thank the flippin' Lord. *siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*

    Yet another incredible game for both teams... I'm so glad that things have come together for games 5 and 6. I thought my boys were going to blow it with those back to back fouls. Demmitall, Brown, you don't get a T when the other team gets called for a foul!

    I love how Rasheed came back and played a terrific final 5 minutes... all with 5 fouls. Now if only he could control himself to playing that way for a solid 48 minutes.

    Game 7, baby!

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    What Broadway said! Woo hoo!

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    SHAME SHAME SHAME - SHAME ON ME!!! (Thankfully thought!)
    I am sooooooooo glad the Pistons pulled it out. It was such a good game, that I had to look away a couple of times cuz I just couldn't take the pressure!! What a wuss I am.
    Game 7 is for all the marbles. Can the Pistons pull off a miracle and beat the SPurs twice in their house? Stay tuned folks - this should be a GREAT game!
    Hellavu series!

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    Besides Pistons fans, David Stern is one happy man right now.

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    Why couldn't hockey negotiations have gone as easily???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ana Bannana
    Can the Pistons pull off a miracle and beat the SPurs twice in their house?
    Not to mention back-to-back? They sure can. Weirder things have happened...the Clippers finished stronger than the Lakers this season and Phil went back to Kobe.

    Kidding aside, this is a great series. I'm glad it went to a Game 7. Just don't give me anymore blow-outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WomynLee
    Kidding aside, this is a great series. I'm glad it went to a Game 7. Just don't give me anymore blow-outs.
    Ditto.

    Then again, I expected an excellent Game 7 between Mavs & Rockets (arguably, along with Mavs & Suns, one of the best series in the entire postseason) and it ended up in a playoff record 40 pt blowout!

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