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    Grand Jury: Giambi admits to 3 yrs of steroid use


    Admissions before BALCO grand jury detailed
    Thursday, December 2, 2004
    ESPN.com news services

    Jason Giambi admitted to a federal grand jury that he took steroids and human growth hormone in 2003, according to transcripts of testimony obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle and published in the newspaper's Thursday editions.

    The New York Yankees slugger's admission in December 2003 contradicts denials he has made since then that he ever took performance-enhancing drugs.

    In the testimony obtained by the Chronicle, the former American League MVP told the grand jury investigating the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroids case that he used steroids obtained from Greg Anderson, the personal trainer for San Francisco Giants star Barry Bonds.

    Anna Ling, one of the attorneys representing Anderson, declined to comment on the specifics of the reported grand jury testimony but told ESPN.com's Tom Farrey on Thursday: "In [Anderson's] mind he has done nothing illegal. If he thought he was doing something illegal, he wouldn't have done it."

    "I can't believe that this [testimony] was released," she said. "It really makes me angry. If the government released it, this case should be dismissed right now."

    Giambi did not implicate Bonds in his testimony; he pointed out that Anderson was secretive about who he was working for and what he was doing to help other professional athletes.

    In the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, assistant U.S. attorney Jeffrey Nedrow asked Giambi, "Did [Anderson] ever say, 'Don't be talking about getting stuff from me?'"

    "That's what I mean by saying that he made it so, you know, private, that you know, 'Hey, don't say anything, don't talk about anything,'" Giambi told the grand jury. "You know, I assumed because he's Barry's trainer -- you know, Barry -- but he never said one time, 'This is what Barry's taking, this is what Barry's doing.' He never gave up another name that he was dealing with or doing anything with."

    Bonds, a seven-time National League MVP, has publicly denied using steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.

    Giambi's younger brother Jeremy, a former Oakland outfielder, also told the grand jury he injected banned drugs received from Anderson, the Chronicle reported.

    Both Giambis said they had used steroids even earlier in their baseball careers. They were granted immunity from prosecution if they told the truth to the grand jury but faced perjury charges if they did not.

    Baseball probably cannot punish Jason Giambi. Penalties for steroid use in baseball started in 2003, but testing with samples identified by players didn't start until 2004, making it unclear if Giambi could be retroactively disciplined for any admission. Human growth hormone, or hGH, is not specifically banned by the major leagues.

    "I've been saying for many months -- I instituted a very, very tough program in the minor leagues on steroids in 2001. We need to have that program at the major-league level," baseball commissioner Bud Selig said at an appearance in Washington, D.C. "This is just another manifestation of why we need that right away. My only reaction is we're going to leave no stone unturned until we have that policy in place by spring training 2005."

    According to ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney, a baseball executive said baseball is considering a range of options in dealing with this issue -- among their options is disciplinary action against Giambi perhaps in the form of suspension.

    There is some sentiment that a distinction could be drawn between the 2003 testing, which didn't carry a penalty phase for positive test, and a player publicly outing himself with this testimony and admitting he broke the rules. With that admission, baseball could decide to discipline Giambi.

    Before any action would be taken, Selig would meet with Giambi.

    When the league performed survey testing over the 2003 season, players who tested positive were not identified by name. So in effect, Giambi indicted himself in the eyes of the league.

    Giambi described to the grand jury how -- using syringes -- he injected human growth hormone into his stomach and testosterone into his buttocks.

    Giambi called the products he obtained from Anderson "undetectable" steroids known as "the clear" and "the cream."

    "The clear" is a liquid drug administered under the tongue a few drops at a time. "The cream" was described as a testosterone-based balm rubbed onto the body, the Chronicle reported.

    Giambi said he obtained all the drugs -- and syringes -- except human growth hormone from Anderson. Giambi said he got the human growth hormone at a Gold's Gym in Las Vegas.

    Anderson's attorney, Tony Serra, declined comment to the Chronicle, citing a court order. Giambi's agent, Arn Tellem, didn't return a telephone seeking comment.

    "We have met with the commissioner's office today and will continue to work with them to obtain all of the facts in this matter," Yankees president Randy Levine said. "We have made no decisions and will keep all of our options open."

    Giambi testified Anderson sent him several different drugs, including testosterone, "the cream" and "the clear." Giambi added Anderson gave him advice on the use of human growth hormone.

    "Did Mr. Anderson provide you with actual injectable testosterone?" Nedrow asked Giambi.

    "Yes," replied Giambi.

    Then, in reference to an alleged steroid calendar from January 2003, Nedrow asked, "OK. And this injectable T, or testosterone, is basically a steroid, correct?"

    "Yes," Giambi replied

    "And did he talk to you about the fact it was a steroid at the time?" Nedrow asked.

    "Yeah, I mean, I -- I don't know if we got into a conversation about it, but we both knew about it, yes," Giambi told the grand jury.

    Giambi said Anderson described "the cream" and "the clear" as "an alternative to steroids, but it doesn't show on a steroid test."

    "And he started talking about that it would raise your testosterone levels, you know, which would basically make it a steroid ... or maybe he said it's an alternative of taking an injectable steroid. That might be a better way to put it," he said.

    Bonds brought Anderson on a barnstorming players' tour of Japan after the big-league season in 2002. Giambi said it was on that November trip he met the trainer.

    In his testimony, Giambi said he asked Anderson about the things Bonds was doing to stay at an elite level.

    "So I started to ask him, 'Hey, what are the things you're doing with Barry? He's an incredible player. I want to still be able to work out at that age and keep playing,'" Giambi testified. "And that's how the conversation first started."

    According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi testified he called Anderson after their return from overseas and then flew to the San Francisco area in either late November or early December to meet at a gym down the street from BALCO in Burlingame, Calif.

    Giambi said the two went to a hospital for Giambi to provide blood and urine samples, which were then taken to BALCO.

    According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi said he and Anderson then began discussing various performance-enhancing drugs Anderson could supply. Also, when Anderson received the results of Giambi's blood and urine tests, Anderson told him he had tested positive for Deca-Durobolin -- a steroid Giambi said he had obtained from the Las Vegas gym -- and that he should discontinue its use because it could stay in his system a long time.

    Giambi said Anderson assured him the drugs he provided in baseball's offseason would be out of his system before Giambi was called for a steroid test.

    Giambi, a four-time All-Star who played his first seven seasons in Oakland, has been unable to duplicate his 2000 MVP success in three seasons with the Yankees. Giambi signed a seven-year, $120 million contract with the Yankees after the 2001 season.

    He played with a knee injury in 2003 and missed more than half the 2004 season with an intestinal parasite and a benign tumor that was reportedly on his pituitary gland. The unusual ailments led many to question about whether they were steroid-related, but Giambi continued to deny ever taking steroids.

    Giambi's most high-profile endorsement was with Arm & Hammer. In national television commercials for the brand's Ultramax deodorant, the ads ended with the tagline, "All the muscle a man needs." The ads last ran in February. "We decided when his two-year contract expired in May of this year to move in a different direction," Brad Casper, president of personal care at Church & Dwight, which owns the Arm & Hammer brand, told ESPN.com's Darren Rovell. "If the alleged use of steroids is true, we certainly did not know or suspect anything at all at the time. We wanted our consumers to focus on the deodorant, not on Jason's bulging muscles."

    The Chronicle also reported Giambi testified he helped his younger brother obtain drugs from Anderson.

    Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury Anderson described "the clear" and "the cream" as undetectable "alternatives to steroids."

    "For all I knew, it could have been baby lotion," Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury.

    Anderson, BALCO founder Victor Conte, vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny all have pleaded not guilty to the charges, which include steroid distribution.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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    It's not just Giambi, either: now Barry Bonds has said that he was also the recipient of steroids, although he didn't know they were steroids:


    Report: Bonds admitted to using substances thought to be steroids

    December 3, 2004

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Barry Bonds testified to a grand jury that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring, but said he didn't know they were steroids, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Friday.

    Bonds told the federal grand jury last year that Greg Anderson, his personal trainer, told him the substances he used in 2003 were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by the Chronicle.

    The substances Bonds described were similar to ones known as ``the clear'' and ``the cream,'' two steroids from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, the lab at the center of the steroid scandal.

    Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, said the leak of grand jury testimony was an attempt to smear his client. Grand jury transcripts are sealed and the Chronicle did not say who showed them the documents.

    ``My view has always been this case has been the U.S. vs. Bonds, and I think the government has moved in certain ways in a concerted effort to indict my client,'' Rains told the newspaper. ``And I think their failure to indict him has resulted in their attempts to smear him publicly.''

    Calls to Rains' office from The Associated Press went unanswered Thursday night.

    Tony Serra, Anderson's lawyer, said Anderson ``never knowingly provided illegal substances to anyone.''
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    bonds didn't know he was taking steroids, my azz. i doubt he'd be hitting 70+ home runs without the juice. look at the size of his head, it's huge. baseball and its stats are tainted.

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    Jason Giambi! What’s funny to me is the so called ‘reaction’ to this because the headlines from the New York papers are outrageous.
    No one involved in baseball or around baseball; i.e. reporters, commentators, management etc. could not have known he was on juice.
    This was one of those “we’ll let it play out and see what happens or We’ll look the other way until you get caught”.
    Now their talking about Giambi facing repercussions from the Yankees and from Selig . What?
    Steinbrenner didn’t know when he gave him that juiced up contract that Giambi wasn’t the chemical equivalent of the Bionic Man.
    Sleig didn’t know when he was cool with the deal to trade Giambi.
    Now Bonds is back in the spotlight again . He's a test tube baby also and should retire this season.
    The sad thing is no one really care because sports fans are a dying breed ,they’ve all become spectators and all spectators care about is mashing or the show.
    I don’t know what kind of crap was growing in Giambi’s gut but whatever it was must have been some serious buffed out parasite to make him drop out last season.
    Lyle Alzado Former Bronco and Raider .Cause of death: Brain cancer brought on by excessive steroid use.
    Ken Caminati , former San Diego Padre ,had his gonads go up in to his gut because of steriod use. Now if that's not enough to to make you not want to de 'roids ......nothing will.

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