well Bill, you would get a good arguement here in St. Louis about LaRussa being a good manager. I think its split 50/50 on that. And I am pissed he sent Hart to Memphis and kept Womack. And traded Robinson to San Diego. Sometimes I think Tony hates young players. He said in Pulhos' first spring training that he tried to discourage him any way he could and had to put him on the roster anyways and look at him now!!