General Bachelor chat - spoiler forum

[reality-luv31]

Do either of the F2 have a "history" having to give in order to receive? Do we really even know their history or their work ethic? Looks like they both grew up without money being a main concern, right? Did Chantal HAVE to work at the dealership? Did Emily HAVE to volunteer at the hospital? Viewers want to put these 2 people into these tidy little simple boxes with simple descriptions based on what we've been told about them by show. (not by them). There are so much more to these people (good and not so good) that we don't know. Neither should be put too high on a pedestal or passed off as a bad person, either.

I'm glad you said this. I just don't understand why money continues to be an issue in the matters of the heart. Could it not just be that Brad as any man should, imo, wanted to make Emily feel secure in where she stood with him, regardless if this was a production or not?

[anders332]

I am glad that you two had such a wonderful relationship and I join you in wishing that it had lasted even longer.

I think that women who never had that in their lives tend to become cynical about men. But Sometimes I wonder which is the cause and which is the affect.

so you're saying its my fault I'm still single 18 yrs after the divorce

[skitts]

Good point. Maybe raising a daughter is her full time job and, to her, is more valuable than a career or a history degree. Who knows

Oh....I bet you do...come on spill! Double dare ya!

[northernviewer]

Good point. Maybe raising a daughter is her full time job and, to her, is more valuable than a career or a history degree. Who knows

I sure hope so but something is telling me that it isn't... but for Brad's sake, I really really hope that I'm wrong.... truly, I do.

[nikkij_26]

I'm not denying that Chantal may have had an easier time than some due to her family's wealth. Probably the adult Trump kids did, too, but they all made sure to get an excellent education and seem to work hard in the Trump organization. If they do any volunteer work, I'm sure it's in addition to their careers, not instead of a career or education. The post and the discussion that I was responding to was about Emily, not Chantal.

Alot of hype around this education discussion. Emily got engaged & relocated right after graduation. Then, lost her fiancee within 6 months of that. Followed by being pregnant for nine months. She had the audacity to focus on raising her fatherless child, mourn the love of her life, and try to recover from it for a few years. She also obtained certification to work real estate, worked on tv, and did charity work. Now all of a sudden she's considered a wealthy, waste of space, lazy, no work ethic, and living off of family money. The girl is all of 24, not 35 or 50. She has plenty of opportunity to pursue education if she chooses. There are plenty of people who take years off after high school to travel or recover from devastating events in their life. There are even women who choose to raise a family straight out of high school because it's what they've wanted all their life and it's their right. The Trump children and Chantal weren't burying a significant other at 18, pregnant at 18, or giving birth to a child at 19. Every person is not the same. Every wealthy person or child of a wealthy person is not the same. Everyone doesn't have the same goals, that doesn't make them wrong compared to others. Or make them slackers. Only that individual knows their dreams, goals and the reasons behind them and the path they take. AS much as people can sleuth on the internet these days about people, people can't know any and everything that Emily has done in her 24 years or would want to do. Particularly, what she planned to do at 18 that may have changed after Ricky's tragedy struck.

[lithargic]

so you're saying its my fault I'm still single 18 yrs after the divorce

Actually it's my fault. I met my wife first!

[Max64]

Good point. Maybe raising a daughter is her full time job and, to her, is more valuable than a career or a history degree. Who knows

It's the most important job a mother can have, and it's time to be cherished. I admire her greatly for making that choice.

[dcowen6]

Good point. Maybe raising a daughter is her full time job and, to her, is more valuable than a career or a history degree. Who knows

HURRAY!...Thanks BabyfaceC...She was 18 when she had Ricki and her life was then dictated..There were means where she could be a stay at home Mom and she did..Her parenting skills are very good as seen during the hometown date. Ricki loves her. Ricki was talked about during the dates that she and Brad had..In her kitchen she stated that she wanted a family..a FAMILY..like the family she saw in Costa Rica..Brad wants a FAMILY...She is not career minded..Now concerning her leaving Ricki to be on the show..Short Term Problem...I had three children and worked until the last was through college...36 years...7 a.m kids to a babysitter returned home 5 p.m when they were young..There are millions of women who do the same thing..We are not bad mothers...

[one71721]

It's the most important job a mother can have, and it's time to be cherished. I admire her greatly for making that choice.

She's very BLESSED to have had a choice... Most of us don't.

[Alexxxx]

I sure hope so but something is telling me that it isn't... but for Brad's sake, I really really hope that I'm wrong.... truly, I do.

I'm with you, NV. I hope so too. But history tells us otherwise. That stay at home mom pursued a career in front of the cameras twice that we know of before this show (that makes three times!) and had a stint selling real estate for a while. Nothing wrong with any of that, except that it doesn't jive with the stay at home mom descriptor that I keep reading. Emily is young and changes her mind a lot about what she wants to do, it appears to me. Also nothing wrong with that. This last decision (engagement to Brad) seems to have some pretty stiff consequences if it falls by the wayside like her others have. I hope this time it's for real. But I haven't seen anything to convince me that it is.