Thread: Bachelor 15 Screen Cap Discussion 2.0

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    Re: Bachelor 15 Screen Cap Discussion 2.0

    As for the conclusive? screen caps providing proof that Em arrives later due to sunlight and shadows, these caps are being compared as side by side proof but clearly Em is much closer to the bottom of the stairs and would therefore be somewhat darker with far less visible shadows.

    Chantal is quite a bit higher on the stairs and the sunlight is able to make shadows on the wall of the stairway.

    IMO These caps don't tell me conclusively which one comes first. Things can be lightened or darkened quite easily.

    I can't shake the feeling that black is white and white is black.LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    So what's the punch line? He is standing in the F2 position so that confirms that Chantal is F2?
    I am guessing the point is that these pics are inconclusive as to where each girl is going to be standing when she is positioned into her spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    OK, first of all, the top off thing IMHO is way overblown. My wife is pretty conservative and church going and even she said, "big deal, she didn't show anything and knew nothing would be allowed to show in print."

    Maybe we should go back to the 1950's where that kind of behavior wasn't tolerated? Oh.but wait, neither was having children without being married so that won't work. That would damage Emily's Virgin Mary image.

    All of that aside. I don't think i was an accident that they made sure those girls only had one hour sleep. You do realize that it has been proven that your judgment with that little sleep is the same as if you are drunk.

    I went through SEAL training and I saw guys not be able to add single digits when sleep deprived enough. Was kind of funny actually.
    You must never have watched this show before, LOL, it's the same every single season.
    Actually, I don't think Chantal got that bad of an edit...others have gotten worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibbles22 View Post
    I'm also going to point out that a poster yesterday inquired about
    the time-stamps on the ABC Medianet pics. She noticed that in the
    SC's of Emily it was very windy ~ as seen by her hair & dress blowing.
    She noted that when Chantal arrived by SC it did not appear windy.
    She said in the ABC pics. One pic of Brad showed how windy it was as
    the coat tails on his suit were standing straight out from the wind.
    I checked the time on the pics. Wind with his jacket blowing straight back
    was taken at 4:17 pm. The pic with Brad standing with no wind, smiling
    waiting for his F1 was taken at 6:28.

    CH's watch showed what we believe to be 06:05 when he was escorting
    Chantal. The picture of his watch with Emily was difficult to see, but
    it appeared to be 4: something.

    Just some things that were pointed out earlier ~ and dismissed by sleuthers.
    Wind comes and goes unless you're in the middle of a hurricane, where it is constant...or on a private island in the middle of the ocean. lol. So that has no bearing on whether his pictures match up with Emily or Chantal. It was just one snap of time with each and with Brad.

    The pictures of the watches mean nothing. I played with them and squinted just like everyone else and we can guess all we want but there's nothing definitive about those pictures, more like hopeful guessing.

    Unless Mike Fleiss has learned how to manipulate the sun (which at this point I think just might be possible-lol), Emily arrives later in the day than Chantal. The shadows and how the sun hits Emily's back versus how it hits Chantal's head and shoulders tells us that.

    When figuring out F1, we must take everything as a whole from the season and not just one picture of a second in time. And as some of us have pointed out from the get-go, everything has pointed towards Emily being F1, which, ironically, was also dismissed until BlondieGal's spoiler came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkij_26 View Post





    If there was any more questioning on rose ceremony postions and where brad is standing with girls a picture plus subtitles is worth a thousand words . Brad is on F2 side with both girls when he is waiting to greet them. It won't be 'til after the hug tha he postions them in F1/F2 spot and himself accordingly.


    If you look at the clip that these were taken from..Brad starts to walks to MEET Chantal...I really think that Chantal could be the 2nd person arriving..I think with the LONG shadows come later in the day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelle View Post
    Don't know where this is taken but. Brad has a crooked tie...So is this after he let go the f2 and before the f1 arrives?

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    Yes the wind can blow all throughout the day, but, but the pictures that were taken and shown to us are with the wind blowing alot for Emily and not so much with Chantal so if you are still sleuthing that must be taken into account, along with the timestamps on the pictures....

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvlady345 View Post
    Yes the wind can blow all throughout the day, but, but the pictures that were taken and shown to us are with the wind blowing alot for Emily and not so much with Chantal so if you are still sleuthing that must be taken into account, along with the timestamps on the pictures....
    If wind is going to taken into account then the hair styles and dresses also have to.

    Emily hair is down and her dress is loose and flowing. We would see lots of movement there regardless.

    Chantals hair is in a updo (apart from her bangs) and her dress is more fitted, movement is harder to see. The feathers on her dress did blow around in the preview though.


    JMO but I think Emily's dress makes for better "swinging around" after the question is popped..

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    Quote Originally Posted by draven31 View Post
    If wind is going to taken into account then the hair styles and dresses also have to.

    Emily hair is down and her dress is loose and flowing. We would see lots of movement there regardless.

    Chantals hair is in a updo (apart from her bangs) and her dress is more fitted, movement is harder to see. The feathers on her dress did blow around in the preview though.


    JMO but I think Emily's dress makes for better "swinging around" after the question is popped..
    But wind is wind even if Chantal's hair is up the part that is hanging would still blow.....Listen I really want/hope/pray that Emily is the F1 because I like Chantal too much for Brad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2observe View Post
    Did you also check to see if the F1 stood on the right side of the Lead, during the F2 Toast?
    Emily was standing in the same position as Roberto did last season during the toast.

    Here is Mr. Write's picture of where the sunset will be and here's MiniDiva's picture of the layout of the winery where you can see where Brad will be standing, as well as the fact that the sun will be to the left (if you're walking down the stairs as the girls will).






    When Brad arrives to let Chantal go (we can tell by the brightness of the sun and where it's hitting him, which is exactly the same as where it's hitting Chantal in her pictures), check out where the camera guy is standing.



    Now check out these pictures from Brad's first season - I've marked the camera man in a red box. His placement shows that should Jenni have been F1, they would've had a "money shot" of her too.




    For the "money shot", yes, the girl typically has to be standing to the right of Brad to see the ring; however, this season, she would be facing the sun and it would totally defeat the purpose of having the proposal at sunset and not using the sunset as the backdrop.

    My theory is that Emily IS on the left and that the camera man moves to stand behind the bolder we see in this picture between Chantal and Brad. As shown in Brad's first season, they can position the cameras to be behind the couple to show the sunset AND the proposal, thus Emily is F1.



    ETA: To add a picture that shows a picture of Emily & Brad from just this angle (you can tell by her bracelets). The camera man would've been closer to get the "money shot". Sorry it's so small.

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    Re: Bachelor 15 Screen Cap Discussion 2.0

    By the pictures post..Chantal is in the f1 spot..Look at the one of Emily with Brad she is on the f2 side..and I think the wind is stronger with Emily which is always stronger before sunset..Usually the wind calms down right before sunset..So Chantal is there when is calmer..

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