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    As I have watched very few seasons of the Bach/B'ette, have there been any seasons where the safe one was ever chosen?
    Ryan comes to mind.

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    Okay, DH and I are still not seeing a love connection with Emily, not at all.
    To us, Emily is still holding back...just not seeing her eager to make a commitment to Brad.
    She looks like she is trying to play the game, but it is falling short.
    Brad is trying very hard to win her over, but the stumbling block for him has arrived. Ricki makes it impossible for him to "move forward", in our estimations.

    With Chantal, there is an ease and comfort...having fun! So much easier to watch.
    Emily has a 5 year old; regardless of what Brad says, he is not ready to really embrace her in all aspects. That was indicated in the edit when it showed that he didn't understand that she would always be upstairs going to bed at night. Ricki would always be there. Brad was clearly and terribly uncomfortable. There was no intimacy, and it was Brad - not Emily.

    It is not Emily - it is Brad at this point. She had to pull HIS head down to kiss her. He didn't even put his arms around her back when SHE kissed him when they were standing at the door. At this particular point, the edit shows the onus is on Brad, not on Emily.

    The edit at this particular time shows as someone else stated so well that Brad wants to be the son that fits in with Chantal's family, not the father to Emily's son.
    Brad was more enamored with Chantal's father than he was with Chantal the other night.
    It is more than a little sad, but I think that the edit is showing us that Brad needs a father in his life, and this is one way to get one. He identifed greatly with Chantal's adopted father. If he picks Chantal, he gets a 2 for 1.

    This is an emotionally difficult edit. They are not holding back on it. It is there for us to see. We can deny it, and we can rationalize and justify things way, but they are still there. Everybody in this group except for Shawntel has had some serious emotional issues, and now we find that even she has a father who really can't let her and the dreams he has of her go.
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    Thanks, Bloomers you said it so much better than I. My point was that Brad had lost his eagerness to win over Emily when he met Ricki. Ricki brought about Brad's stumbling block in spades!
    DH has said from the beginning that Emily wasn't in it...to win it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers View Post
    Emily has a 5 year old; regardless of what Brad says, he is not ready to really embrace her in all aspects. That was indicated in the edit when it showed that he didn't understand that she would always be upstairs going to bed at night. Ricki would always be there. Brad was clearly and terribly uncomfortable. There was no intimacy, and it was Brad - not Emily.

    It is not Emily - it is Brad at this point. She had to pull HIS head down to kiss her. He didn't even put his arms around her back when SHE kissed him when they were standing at the door. At this particular point, the edit shows the onus is on Brad, not on Emily.

    The edit at this particular time shows as someone else stated so well that Brad wants to be the son that fits in with Chantal's family, not the father to Emily's son.
    Brad was more enamored with Chantal's father than he was with Chantal the other night.
    It is more than a little sad, but I think that the edit is showing us that Brad needs a father in his life, and this is one way to get one. He identifed greatly with Chantal's adopted father. If he picks Chantal, he gets a 2 for 1.

    This is an emotionally difficult edit. They are not holding back on it. It is there for us to see. We can deny it, and we can rationalize and justify things way, but they are still there. Everybody in this group except for Shawntel has had some serious emotional issues, and now we find that even she has a father who really can't let her and the dreams he has of her go.
    You know that about sums up this season for me. It has been a truly difficult edit with Brad and his therapist, Chantal who is being portrayed as the delusional Brat from Hell, to saintly Emily and her and Brad's struggle to overcome an obstacle per week. I am actually gloomy and depressed watching it. The edit and maybe the reality has dysfunction written all over it.
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    Re: Edit Analysis 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by veg_out View Post
    Adding to Brad's conflict over which romantic connection he wants, we now must decide which role Brad will choose.

    Does he want to be the son in Chantal's family and finally have a father figure until they have their own children?

    or

    Does he want to be the father figure in Emily's family?

    What have we seen to date that gives us the answer? How might that answer change next week?

    Very good analysis Veg_

    Yes, he has mentioned being distant from his father...but I don't think Brad sees that necessarily as a void. Just what is.

    Whereas his brothers are married with kids and Brad has stated he wants that.
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    Re: Edit Analysis 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover View Post
    Very good analysis Veg_

    Yes, he has mentioned being distant from his father...but I don't think Brad sees that necessarily as a void. Just what is.

    Whereas his brothers are married with kids and Brad has stated he wants that.
    Didn't Brad mention that he had started slowly mending bridges with his own dad when the show aired? I definitely think he admires Chantal's dad and what he has achieved and is very proud of himself. I don't necessarily think he needs a Chantal's father to be his daddy. I think they just connected and have mutual admiration for each other.
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    Re: Edit Analysis 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover View Post
    Very good analysis Veg_

    Yes, he has mentioned being distant from his father...but I don't think Brad sees that necessarily as a void. Just what is.

    Whereas his brothers are married with kids and Brad has stated he wants that.
    This again reminds me eerily of Deanna's edit (how ironic). The lead says they want something... tptb serve it up on a silver platter and they end up choosing the other. Why? because they like them both but realized they couldn't handle getting "what they wanted" in 6 short weeks.

    With Ricki it's even more intense because her father is gone. It's not like Emily shares custody with anyone ... it's all Mommy. She has no father figure in her life. Brad would need to be her father. He doesn't get to do the "mentor/friend" part that some stepdads get to do. Slap this scenario in the tiny timeframe and he's going nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers View Post
    Emily has a 5 year old; regardless of what Brad says, he is not ready to really embrace her in all aspects. That was indicated in the edit when it showed that he didn't understand that she would always be upstairs going to bed at night. Ricki would always be there. Brad was clearly and terribly uncomfortable. There was no intimacy, and it was Brad - not Emily.

    It is not Emily - it is Brad at this point. She had to pull HIS head down to kiss her. He didn't even put his arms around her back when SHE kissed him when they were standing at the door. At this particular point, the edit shows the onus is on Brad, not on Emily.

    The edit at this particular time shows as someone else stated so well that Brad wants to be the son that fits in with Chantal's family, not the father to Emily's son.
    Brad was more enamored with Chantal's father than he was with Chantal the other night.
    It is more than a little sad, but I think that the edit is showing us that Brad needs a father in his life, and this is one way to get one. He identifed greatly with Chantal's adopted father. If he picks Chantal, he gets a 2 for 1.

    This is an emotionally difficult edit. They are not holding back on it. It is there for us to see. We can deny it, and we can rationalize and justify things way, but they are still there. Everybody in this group except for Shawntel has had some serious emotional issues, and now we find that even she has a father who really can't let her and the dreams he has of her go.
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
    The season started out with Brad trying to drill his way in to Emily and now the tables have turned. As if he's questioning himself..."do i really want this right now" or "am i really ready for this right now".

    Looked like the same old Brad & Emily date trying desperately to make it work.
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    Re: Edit Analysis 2.0

    The edit of the f2 is very telling to me.

    Chantal: We've seen a lot of Chantal's emotional side, so much so that people are annoyed by her and tired of the tears. We have seen her having fun with Brad, being adventurous, them being romantic, and a great htd but still people aren't seeing the relationship as being a good one. It's a great way to hide the f1 person but not so affective if she's the f2.

    Emily: With Emily it's Brad saying wonderful things about her in PIs and in the blogs. It doesn't seem to matter that what we're being shown doesn't match what we're hearing/reading. Even if a lot is being edited out we still see a very distant relationship (if you can call it that) where there's very little contact. Even still that's not what people remember and the majority of viewers seem to believe that either it is Emily or should be. A good way to edit the f2 person but not f1.

    When you think about it, Fleiss is doing his best to muddy the RS spoilers water and has set up Emily as the f1 people are hoping to see. We all know that MF doesn't care at all about what people want but how to best fool them. He's all about the drama and a FRC where the expected happens isn't what he's all about. With Jason it was okay because he knew what was happening at the ATFR show. I just don't see any way that this is going to come down to Emily as the f1 based on the edit let alone the spoilers.

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    Re: Edit Analysis 2.0

    While watching the htd w/ Emily - I got the impression that it was edited to show everyone she is now ready to move on and be a woman. The kid's in bed and now it's her time. She wanted to be kissed and romanced and was disappointed Brad did not cooperate. This opens the door for the audience to accept Emily as the next Bachelorette. My question is - was that planned and was Brad in on that?

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