Edit Analysis 2.0

[carriealexander]

Brad didn't seem disengaged on his date with Shawntel... and that was the day after Emily's. I think the SI group date was just too much.Brad even said it himself that he made a mistake kissing Michelle on that date in front of the others.

It came off to me like he was punishing himself for kissing Michelle on the date, which just made everyone else more mad. Oh Stephen Bradly when will you ever learn..

[Bonbonlover]

There were positive things in the edit if you look deeper. Personally, I feel it cemented his feelings for Chantal more than anything which is why he's looking for homes in Seattle next week .

Seattle in the Fall is Spectacular! I can't imagine anyone not wanting to live there... that doesn't mean they are going to marry the girl

[connorsmom]

Brad has struck me from the beginning of this, his second attempt, as being particularly concerned with acquiescing to/appeasing the producers by being a good obedient lead, so I do think he is being led/encouraged by them to do things their way regarding who to take on which date, who to give date roses to and who to spend extra time with. The one time he "broke the rules" by not having a cocktail party, he was extremely apologetic and contrite about it, and seemed so grateful that they were doing him this big favor by listening to him for a change. If he really has been in intensive therapy for a while, it has probably made him less trusting of his own instincts and more willing to believe that an "authority", whether it be his therapist or the producers, knows what is in his best interests.

Everyone's therapy is different, however I wouldn't say that therapy teaches you to be LESS trusting in your own instincts. Part of my experiences in past have been to build that trust within myself, that understanding - not the opposite. If Brad has been in therapy for any good length of time, he's already well established tools to better communicate based on his own instincts and a more solid understanding of who he is. That's the point of it. And my guess is also that Brad respects the agreements he makes - he made an agreement to come on the bachelor, knowing from experience what he was in for, what the producers would do -- he agreed to that when he said Yes. I couldn't see him then demanding to do things his own way after he'd agreed. I would see him as too much of a gentleman who honors his word. But that doesn't imply by any means that he just acquiesces to whatever TPTB want him to do -- other than what he initially agreed to.

ITA! On group dates it's going to be hard for her and for him. They both are in impossible situations at this point. Even though I didn't like how Brad handled it, he still tried to make it okay at the end, and he needed Chantal to be okay. The look on his face when she walked away was enough for me to see how he is truly feeling and I'm sure he will make it up to her. I also am looking forward to the HTD because it's about to really heat up.

I think it's also why we've heard him say to her "You know how I feel." Which implies there are deeper conversations and admissions on his part that we've not been shown. Once again, this year, I'm going to email and PRAY they give us an "outtakes" show of Brad and Chantal -- moments we didn't see. I SO wish they'd do that! I wanted that with Ali/Roberto and also Jason/Molly.

[cantstopwatchin]

Brad didn't seem disengaged on his date with Shawntel... and that was the day after Emily's. I think the SI group date was just too much.Brad even said it himself that he made a mistake kissing Michelle on that date in front of the others.

Rewatch their time in the ocean - Shawntel is ready to jump all over him and you can see his hands hold her in the same position (it looks like she tried to move, which is why I say this). His hands stayed there the entire time they kissed. Compare that to the kisses on the beach (both during the day and night) with Emily where his hands were cradling her head, running down her hair and back, and rubbing her arms. Big, huge difference between the two.

Not to mention the 2 times Brad mentioned Emily during Shawntel's date. Didn't Ali mention Roberto in Portugal the following day??

ITA, Luvvy. I really think that was the moment he realized he might lose Chantal and it was probably the turning point for Brad. I think up until then he knew how he felt about her but didn't feel he had to show her when the others were around. I'm not sure the editing will let us see much of what happened next during her HTD but hoping it will be good.

Perhaps but it'd be too little, too late. Because he already decided that he was going pursue Emily in Las Vegas - that is why we see the PI of him saying he wanted Emily to know that he was just being "me" - he's concerned she might be comparing him or not ready to let go. But Emily solved that problem when she said she didn't want her past to become an issue anymore and he answered fair enough. Then they each promised to be themselves, good or bad, a theme they followed in Costa Rica (when Brad asked Emily to tell him what she was feeling, good or bad) and in Anguilla (when Emily told Brad she wanted him to be brutally honest) - these are REAL conversations - probably some of the most honest ones we've seen in a long time.

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Doesn't anyone wonder why Brad was in such a bad mood in Costa Rica (per his and CH's blogs last week)?? I believe it's the same reason Jillian was in such a funk after Ed left - because here they were, falling for someone, and that someone pulled the rug from under their feet. Ed left Jillian and Emily divulged more of her past to Brad and Brad saw how affected she was at the racetrack, which gave him doubts.

But then...Brad got time to talk to Emily and she told him about her fear and pulling back in relationships and they talked it out and he urged her to stay emotionally with him. Problem solved!

And then he's in a fantastic mood for his 2nd favorite week of the season (his words, not mine!) in Anguilla...

[Max64]

What does anyone make of Brads comment on his date with Shawntel, something was said about being in love, and he said "maybe I already am".. I found that odd???

[luvlady345]

CSW, Brad had the same disconnect on the group date after his one/one with Chantal he couldn't even give the rose out on that date an Emily was on that date....Personally for me I am not seeing the disconnect on the dates favoring Chantal or Emily what I am seeing is a man who after having a one/one is just emotionally tired.......

[pbmax]

He doesn't "disengage" from the F2 until the end. SI date isn't even close.

No my point was, if he's brushing her off now, I imagine, how he's going to be towards her then.

Brad didn't seem disengaged on his date with Shawntel... and that was the day after Emily's. I think the SI group date was just too much.Brad even said it himself that he made a mistake kissing Michelle on that date in front of the others

I think he did, especially when he said Auntie B put him on the spot. We see him speak of his date with Emily twice while on his date with Shawntel.

[luvlady345]

No my point was, if he's brushing her off now, I imagine, how he's going to be towards her then.




I think he did, especially when he said Auntie B put him on the spot. We see him speak of his date with Emily twice while on his date with Shawntel.

So what about Chantal's date when Brad wouldn't give out the rose to anyone......If Brad is disengaging he is disengaging with all of them after each one/one date, isn't he?

[chicagoowl]

No my point was, if he's brushing her off now, I imagine, how he's going to be towards her then.




I think he did, especially when he said Auntie B put him on the spot. We see him speak of his date with Emily twice while on his date with Shawntel.

Editing. They edit stuff in. They edit stuff out. We don't know nor will ever know the whole story.

[pbmax]

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Editing. They edit stuff in. They edit stuff out. We don't know nor will ever know the whole story.

Well they are just out to fool us left and right.

So what about Chantal's date when Brad wouldn't give out the rose to anyone......If Brad is disengaging he is disengaging with all of them after each one/one date, isn't he?

Chantal date didn't put him in a funk, he had no problem kissing Emily nor telling her that he cares about her and he won't let her sabotage what they have, nope he didn't brush her off. He just didn't give out the rose, which I believe is because Em was on it and he couldn't give it to her without all the grief from the other ladies. He didn't cancel the cocktail party.