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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryvetted;4181614;
    Has anyone been able to find where this is? It looks like Africa to me, although the girls' Fantasy Suites are much different than this background.

    It doesn't look like a HTD, but I guess it's possible.

    She is either talking to someone else there as well, or talking to the camera..as she is NOT looking at Brad

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    Re: Bachelor 15 *Screencap Discussion*

    Quote Originally Posted by fan*addict;4181639;
    She is either talking to someone else there as well, or talking to the camera..as she is NOT looking at Brad
    She's probably distraught here and it was probably just a moment in time when she wasn't looking straight at him while talking. I'm surprised we don't see her expressive hands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryvetted;4181614;
    Has anyone been able to find where this is? It looks like Africa to me, although the girls' Fantasy Suites are much different than this background.

    It doesn't look like a HTD, but I guess it's possible.

    Maybe it's in the deliberation room before the RC? Normally at F3 they have the women make video packages for Brad and that's when she comes in and talks to him?
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    Re: Bachelor 15 *Screencap Discussion*

    Quote Originally Posted by richmondrose;4181607;
    the girls will be let off by the boulders and take the longest route through the winery for the "most dramatic FRC evah!"
    this is The Most Controversial Season of The Bachelor... so no drama at FRC.


    BTW: what makes this season controversial???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover;4181657;
    this is The Most Controversial Season of The Bachelor... so no drama at FRC.


    BTW: what makes this season controversial???
    The last season with Brad on it is my current best hypothesis. If there was a twist mid stream or at the end, they would not so promote it from Day One (it wouldn't be a surprise).

    The show has finally realized that the show's audience appeal is not broad enough if they merely pitch it on the Female Fantasy of ending up with :

    --millionaire
    --the heir to an American fortune
    -- doctor
    --professional athlete
    --a prince
    --an officer and a gentleman
    --Self Made Man who looks like McSteamy (how Brad was pitched first go round)
    --a London "banker" (can't type that one without the quote!)
    --an unemployed single dad ... (LOL ... Sleepless in Seattle)

    When you line them up, it's so misogynistic you want to barf. The show was founded by General Hospital producers (and Fleiss) to appeal to the soap opera digest demographic. I guess they think that's what we want.

    Anyway, NOW they pitch it for a Studio System promotional arc ... make "stars" of the personalities on the cast, and promote interest in the show through scandal, controversy, whatever will keep the grocery store rags and related blogs talking about the show week to week.

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    Ok Ė having thought about this a little bit last night and this morning Ė here's my best effort to figure out what took place at the FRC. Sorry about the length of this.

    In the sc below, Iím fairly confident that the limos depart from the area identified by the red circle. As each limo departs, the driver turns left and then right, and then right again to exit Els Winery (as indicated by the red arrows). We only see the first left turn of the limo in the scs. When F2 and possibly F1 departs from this area they get into the right-hand, rear door of the limo.



    However, when each limo arrives I expect that it drives straight into that area, and Brad and or the girls get out of the left had side. That is the side Brad is sitting on in the scs that show him going to the FRC. It is also the side that is closest to the route they take to the podium (see white arrow discussion below). I also suspect that in one case, after the arriving occupant got out of the left hand limo door, it was not shut properly behind them. I think the door remained that way while the limo driver turned the car around preparing to take his/her passenger away.

    The white arrows show the path that I think Brad, the F1 and the F2 took as they went to the podium Ė ie. through the boulder garden, then the building, down the steps, and from there onto some kind of deck/pathway that went all the way from the bottom of the steps to the podium.

    This is what the entrance to the boulder garden looks like from that parking area. If you were able to stand there and pivot to your right 180 degrees thatís where the limo would be parked with a wall, the lamps, and trees ahead of you.


    And this is the beginning of the deck/pathway that leads from the stairs to the podium in the far corner of the lawn that everyone has done such a great job identifying.


    The next image showing the sun going down at about the same time of year as the FRC. I have put a white line where I think the limos parked.



    Fairly late in the afternoon the shadows from the trees behind the car would have been quite long. Just like this:



    Based on the angle of the sun and the length of the shadow, I think the sc below is earlier (but Iím not sure yet, how much earlier). If I have time Iíll try and turn Brad into a human sundial.



    But I think the next sc is quite a bit earlier than the two above. The trees are not casting any shadow on the top of the limo and the shadow from the spoiler on the back of the limo seems to be going away from Brad.



    Sooooooo Ö. If you combine this with the license plate sleuthing and the apparent differences in the interior of the limos in the scs, it certainly looks like Brad shuts the door on two limos that subsequently leave Els Winery.

    If thatís right it could mean one of several things that range from TPTB staged the departure of a second limo, using the one Brad drove up in, to Brad reject F2 but was then rejected himself by F1 and both girls left. Obviously, Brad would have to subsequently get together with someone since he apparently is engaged now.

    One more thing - as a passing comment, the limo roof appears to be open in the vehicle Brad uses to travel to the FRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Write;4181668;
    Ok Ė having thought about this a little bit last night and this morning Ė here's my best effort to figure out what took place at the FRC. Sorry about the length of this.

    In the sc below, Iím fairly confident that the limos depart from the area identified by the red circle. As each limo departs, the driver turns left and then right, and then right again to exit Els Winery (as indicated by the red arrows). We only see the first left turn of the limo in the scs. When F2 and possibly F1 departs from this area they get into the right-hand, rear door of the limo.



    However, when each limo arrives I expect that it drives straight into that area, and Brad and or the girls get out of the left had side. That is the side Brad is sitting on in the scs that show him going to the FRC. It is also the side that is closest to the route they take to the podium (see white arrow discussion below). I also suspect that in one case, after the arriving occupant got out of the left hand limo door, it was not shut properly behind them. I think the door remained that way while the limo driver turned the car around preparing to take his/her passenger away.

    The white arrows show the path that I think Brad, the F1 and the F2 took as they went to the podium Ė ie. through the boulder garden, then the building, down the steps, and from there onto some kind of deck/pathway that went all the way from the bottom of the steps to the podium.

    This is what the entrance to the boulder garden looks like from that parking area. If you were able to stand there and pivot to your right 180 degrees thatís where the limo would be parked with a wall, the lamps, and trees ahead of you.


    And this is the beginning of the deck/pathway that leads from the stairs to the podium in the far corner of the lawn that everyone has done such a great job identifying.


    The next image showing the sun going down at about the same time of year as the FRC. I have put a white line where I think the limos parked.



    Fairly late in the afternoon the shadows from the trees behind the car would have been quite long. Just like this:



    Based on the angle of the sun and the length of the shadow, I think the sc below is earlier (but Iím not sure yet, how much earlier). If I have time Iíll try and turn Brad into a human sundial.



    But I think the next sc is quite a bit earlier than the two above. The trees are not casting any shadow on the top of the limo and the shadow from the spoiler on the back of the limo seems to be going away from Brad.



    Sooooooo Ö. If you combine this with the license plate sleuthing and the apparent differences in the interior of the limos in the scs, it certainly looks like Brad shuts the door on two limos that subsequently leave Els Winery.

    If thatís right it could mean one of several things that range from TPTB staged the departure of a second limo, using the one Brad drove up in, to Brad reject F2 but was then rejected himself by F1 and both girls left. Obviously, Brad would have to subsequently get together with someone since he apparently is engaged now.

    One more thing - as a passing comment, the limo roof appears to be open in the vehicle Brad uses to travel to the FRC
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    Re: Bachelor 15 *Screencap Discussion*

    Holy macroni, Mr. Write! Thanks!!

    So, since the photo below is our earliest sc, due to the shadows...
    it either has to be Brad arriving... or a pretend departure like you said that was staged/faked beforehand.

    There's no way this can be a real departure since the podium sc is later in the day, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryvetted;4181686;
    Holy macroni, Mr. Write! Thanks!!

    So, since the photo below is our earliest sc, due to the shadows...
    it either has to be Brad arriving... or a pretend departure like you said that was staged/faked beforehand.

    There's no way this can be a real departure since the podium sc is later in the day, right?


    Unless the podium sc is after the F2 departure and before F1 arrival.

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    Unless.....is this what you were saying also, ..that Emily leaves first in the short shadow sc, and the podium sc is Brad waiting for Chantal. Then someone leaves late in a limo with long shadows...

    I personally think he gave Chantal the final rose, so I think they played with out minds about the limos.
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