The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation - Page 2

razorbacker · 02-18-2008, 02:49 PM

^^^ While I don't want this to get to far off base & take away from Leo's great article, I just have to say that even though Alicia Keyes has spent a few weeks at #1, she has done so by setting records for the fewest number of albums sold for a #1 album (a few weeks in the lower 60,000 range). It hasn't been a pretty chart for anyone & is only going to get worse & much more dificult to hit those really big numbers.

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burntbrat · 02-18-2008, 10:39 PM

Thank you for a fantastic read, Leo. It was great to read about your thoughts on the past contestants and the future of the show. You covered everything!

MsFroggy · 02-19-2008, 09:52 AM

Excellent article, Leo!

I agree with many of your points, especially about where the music industry is headed. However, they have something coming to them with all these RIAA lawsuits of the little people, all the DRM on stuff that pretty much is there to tell you that you don't really own what you own, and the ridiculously minuscule slice of the pie that the actual musicians get vs. what the fat label execs in the corner offices get. In a music world that is slow to adapt to change and where musicians don't really own their own material and are forced to step into prohibitive contracts with big centralized moneymaking machines who don't care about them, digital downloads and self publishing will probably be a way to go for many of the displaced. And maybe they'll be better of. Times they're achangin'.

testing123 · 02-19-2008, 02:25 PM

Thanks

TLynnMartin · 02-21-2008, 07:05 PM

Let's be real - in this age of people downloading songs/albums - how can you tell who is a flop and who is not? IHow many people did not buy Jordin or Taylor - but downloaded them - you couldn't really do that with Kelly,Clay etc. That is all anybody does these days. Let's be real. I love Taylor Hicks - I would go see his concert in a heart beat. I would not pay 2 cents to see Clay Aitken.

razorbacker · 02-21-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TLynnMartin

Let's be real - in this age of people downloading songs/albums - how can you tell who is a flop and who is not? IHow many people did not buy Jordin or Taylor - but downloaded them - you couldn't really do that with Kelly,Clay etc. That is all anybody does these days. Let's be real. I love Taylor Hicks - I would go see his concert in a heart beat. I would not pay 2 cents to see Clay Aitken.

I can tell you that Jordins first single has been certified Platinum, Taylor has not had any songs to do so.

Tickety · 02-24-2008, 04:01 AM

Really? Wow!

I do hear Jordin's single on the radio all the time. Her latest one, No Air, is climbing the charts too, I think.

02-18-2008, 02:49 PM	#11
razorbacker FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,038	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation ^^^ While I don't want this to get to far off base & take away from Leo's great article, I just have to say that even though Alicia Keyes has spent a few weeks at #1, she has done so by setting records for the fewest number of albums sold for a #1 album (a few weeks in the lower 60,000 range). It hasn't been a pretty chart for anyone & is only going to get worse & much more dificult to hit those really big numbers.

02-18-2008, 10:39 PM	#12
burntbrat Forum Assistant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Age: 33 Posts: 2,032 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation Thank you for a fantastic read, Leo. It was great to read about your thoughts on the past contestants and the future of the show. You covered everything! __________________ You know what they say... fool me once, strike one. Fool me twice, ssttrriikke three.

02-19-2008, 09:52 AM	#13
MsFroggy peace Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,901	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation Excellent article, Leo! I agree with many of your points, especially about where the music industry is headed. However, they have something coming to them with all these RIAA lawsuits of the little people, all the DRM on stuff that pretty much is there to tell you that you don't really own what you own, and the ridiculously minuscule slice of the pie that the actual musicians get vs. what the fat label execs in the corner offices get. In a music world that is slow to adapt to change and where musicians don't really own their own material and are forced to step into prohibitive contracts with big centralized moneymaking machines who don't care about them, digital downloads and self publishing will probably be a way to go for many of the displaced. And maybe they'll be better of. Times they're achangin'.

02-19-2008, 02:25 PM	#14
testing123 FORT Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation Thanks

02-21-2008, 07:05 PM	#15
TLynnMartin FORT Fan Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 363	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation Let's be real - in this age of people downloading songs/albums - how can you tell who is a flop and who is not? IHow many people did not buy Jordin or Taylor - but downloaded them - you couldn't really do that with Kelly,Clay etc. That is all anybody does these days. Let's be real. I love Taylor Hicks - I would go see his concert in a heart beat. I would not pay 2 cents to see Clay Aitken.

02-24-2008, 04:01 AM	#17
Tickety Duke Blue Devil Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cameron Indoor Posts: 1,664	Re: The Idol Guy, Preseason Roundup: The State of the Idol Nation Really? Wow! I do hear Jordin's single on the radio all the time. Her latest one, No Air, is climbing the charts too, I think. __________________ 2003-2008.