1/11 Show Discussion **Spoilers** (Finale) - Page 2

EXlurker · 01-11-2005, 09:39 PM

Ah, I see. Sounds like a great finale...wait...what???? Shawn??? Why???

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Krom · 01-11-2005, 09:51 PM

Branson says he needs a decision "right now" but then changes his mind and lets the other contestants argue it out with Shawn. He takes 45 minutes. The vast majority of them are yelling for him to take the risk. Gabe seems to favor playing it safe--asking Shawn to consider what that million could do for his company.

It was a trick--Branson expected and wanted Shawn to refuse the coin toss. A 50% chance is a bad risk he says. It's the Victoria Falls test all over again.

The actual prize is 3 months as a kind of co-president with Richard (more likely as his Apprentice). At the end of that, if both men are satisfied, Richard will start a new company and give Shawn a big stake in it for him to run.

So maybe Branson had something if the result he wanted was to not take the risk. Sara looked like she might have.

EXlurker · 01-11-2005, 09:59 PM

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It was a trick--Branson expected and wanted Shawn to refuse the coin toss. A 50% chance is a bad risk he says. It's the Victoria Falls test all over again.

I kind of expected that. 3 months?

He should have taken the million.

divaexpatriate · 01-11-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Krom

Branson says he needs a decision "right now" but then changes his mind and lets the other contestants argue it out with Shawn. He takes 45 minutes. The vast majority of them are yelling for him to take the risk. Gabe seems to favor playing it safe--asking Shawn to consider what that million could do for his company.

It was a trick--Branson expected and wanted Shawn to refuse the coin toss. A 50% chance is a bad risk he says. It's the Victoria Falls test all over again.

The actual prize is 3 months as a kind of co-president with Richard (more likely as his Apprentice). At the end of that, if both men are satisfied, Richard will start a new company and give Shawn a big stake in it for him to run.

So maybe Branson had something if the result he wanted was to not take the risk. Sara looked like she might have.

I think Sara was hoping for Shawn to take the risk so that he'd walk away with nothing. I don't think she would have taken the risk.

dberk · 01-11-2005, 10:04 PM

Apparently Branson was only looking for someone to play with afterall.

EXlurker · 01-11-2005, 10:05 PM

I read that Shawn is already a multi millionaire. For him, opting for the coin toss is the correct choice, IMO. I agree, I think Sara would have taken the million- I would too.

EXlurker · 01-11-2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dberk

Apparently Branson was only looking for someone to play with afterall.

All this "play" with an anti-climatic ending. :phhht

Krom · 01-11-2005, 10:17 PM

I have a theory that Gabe was actually put up to his suggestion to be cautious by Branson. Part of the challenge was to see if Shawn could follow sensible advice, as well as NOT take a bad risk.

divaexpatriate · 01-11-2005, 10:18 PM

Okay.. I *knew* he would pick Gabriel.. because he seemed like the type of guy to make choices mostly based on emotion. So, it probably didn't occur to him to "think it out" and be like- well, Gabriel picked Sarah both times, he must feel she is a stronger leader blah blah blah. He didn't care about what Gabe thought.. he only cared about how he felt towards Gabe. So, the positive side of his self-preoccupation is a sort of fierce loyalty.

On the flip side, we've seen how Shawn was a *horrible* listener... he didn't even know for sure what his best pal Gabe did! I would *not* want a boss like that who does not know me (or my strengths/weaknesses) and basically just treats me based the way his own moods dictate.

He seems like the type of guy who would be a lot of fun to be around... when things are going well. You know, the type of boss who might do something spontaneous, like give everyone big bonuses/gifts after a project is completed successfully. But that simply has to do with his own feelings: he feels great, so he's generous. What about when things aren't going well? We've seen how disruptive and rude he can be.

The point is, whatever he does, he does because of his own feelings, goals, and dreams. When he gives, he does so based on his own feelings for others. Does he ever consider what others might *want*? Or is it more just a blind satiation of his own ego? He seems to like shocking people. I'm sure it made him feel good to "reward" Gabe by not holding his earlier "betrayals" against him. Just feeds into his already enormous ego.

Argghh.. this was a long post because I *hate* Shawn! :phhht

Burntcrow · 01-11-2005, 10:33 PM

The only thing that would have made this finale worse, is if Shawn would have won. Oh wait...crap show, crap finale.

I guess this is a good time to tell Krom that I like your new avatar. I think I have 3 new folds on my forehead from cringing everytime I saw Gary Coleman.

01-11-2005, 09:51 PM	#12
Krom Fool... but no pity. Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,731	Branson says he needs a decision "right now" but then changes his mind and lets the other contestants argue it out with Shawn. He takes 45 minutes. The vast majority of them are yelling for him to take the risk. Gabe seems to favor playing it safe--asking Shawn to consider what that million could do for his company. It was a trick--Branson expected and wanted Shawn to refuse the coin toss. A 50% chance is a bad risk he says. It's the Victoria Falls test all over again. The actual prize is 3 months as a kind of co-president with Richard (more likely as his Apprentice). At the end of that, if both men are satisfied, Richard will start a new company and give Shawn a big stake in it for him to run. So maybe Branson had something if the result he wanted was to not take the risk. Sara looked like she might have. __________________ "Not to denigrate the TV show, but nobody ever died," Cannell said recently. "We drove cars off cliffs and people got out and walked away. We're not going to do that [in the movie]. In this the tone is more dangerous - you can really die. It's very tense and exciting." Stephen J Cannell, on the new A-Team movie being produced Last edited by Krom; 01-11-2005 at 09:55 PM.

01-11-2005, 10:17 PM	#18
Krom Fool... but no pity. Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,731	I have a theory that Gabe was actually put up to his suggestion to be cautious by Branson. Part of the challenge was to see if Shawn could follow sensible advice, as well as NOT take a bad risk. __________________ "Not to denigrate the TV show, but nobody ever died," Cannell said recently. "We drove cars off cliffs and people got out and walked away. We're not going to do that [in the movie]. In this the tone is more dangerous - you can really die. It's very tense and exciting." Stephen J Cannell, on the new A-Team movie being produced

01-11-2005, 09:39 PM	#11
EXlurker It's a bird, it's a plane Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 1,241	Ah, I see. Sounds like a great finale...wait...what???? Shawn??? Why???

01-11-2005, 10:04 PM	#15
dberk Ms Ambusher Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 50 Posts: 4,222	Apparently Branson was only looking for someone to play with afterall.

01-11-2005, 10:05 PM	#16
EXlurker It's a bird, it's a plane Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 1,241	I read that Shawn is already a multi millionaire. For him, opting for the coin toss is the correct choice, IMO. I agree, I think Sara would have taken the million- I would too.

01-11-2005, 10:18 PM	#19
divaexpatriate FORT Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 440	Okay.. I knew he would pick Gabriel.. because he seemed like the type of guy to make choices mostly based on emotion. So, it probably didn't occur to him to "think it out" and be like- well, Gabriel picked Sarah both times, he must feel she is a stronger leader blah blah blah. He didn't care about what Gabe thought.. he only cared about how he felt towards Gabe. So, the positive side of his self-preoccupation is a sort of fierce loyalty. On the flip side, we've seen how Shawn was a horrible listener... he didn't even know for sure what his best pal Gabe did! I would not want a boss like that who does not know me (or my strengths/weaknesses) and basically just treats me based the way his own moods dictate. He seems like the type of guy who would be a lot of fun to be around... when things are going well. You know, the type of boss who might do something spontaneous, like give everyone big bonuses/gifts after a project is completed successfully. But that simply has to do with his own feelings: he feels great, so he's generous. What about when things aren't going well? We've seen how disruptive and rude he can be. The point is, whatever he does, he does because of his own feelings, goals, and dreams. When he gives, he does so based on his own feelings for others. Does he ever consider what others might want? Or is it more just a blind satiation of his own ego? He seems to like shocking people. I'm sure it made him feel good to "reward" Gabe by not holding his earlier "betrayals" against him. Just feeds into his already enormous ego. Argghh.. this was a long post because I hate Shawn! :phhht

01-11-2005, 10:33 PM	#20
Burntcrow Too cold to run away! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Texuhs Posts: 1,257	The only thing that would have made this finale worse, is if Shawn would have won. Oh wait...crap show, crap finale. I guess this is a good time to tell Krom that I like your new avatar. I think I have 3 new folds on my forehead from cringing everytime I saw Gary Coleman.