The Real Housewives of New York

[Dragonlady]

. Sonja was filmed saying she "humped Thomas in the back of the garden".

Pardon me, but if Carol was correct in what she observed Sonja and Tomas doing, then I think we could say that Tomas humped Sonja in the "back of her garden!"

[mayamaisha]

IMO, Aviva is nuts, self-centered, delusional, did I say nuts. Why do I keep watching these shows? I know, I'll ask Aviva......she is exhausting.

[Jexter]

Dang. Aviva was just gross in this episode. Her dad (who I normally like) was a close second.

[Lizard]

Wow! Sonja is really not over her ex-husband at all, is she? How sad that her poor daughter gets to stand on the sidelines and see that pathetic situation.

I hate to see somebody trying and trying to hang onto a marriage/relationship that the other person has, without question, abandoned. Luann got burned like that by the Count; her pride was the most wounded appendage. Sonja still thinks she is in love.

With Sonja I think it was more of an identity issue. She was a very rich man's wife. Maybe the painting was to remind people or remind herself........if she owns a house in France, I think she must have gotten a settlement in her divorce.

White trash, bullying Aviva with her double dealing middle aged fat husband and trailer terd father. I believe her father was just looking for an opportunity to chase Carol. I do not think he was really trying to help his daughter out.

[Rockytop Chick]

I am Aviva!!!! I am an amputee and have way too many phobias to count! You had better all rearrange your lives around my many many many problems, and then apologize to me too!!! Oh, and you all have to sleep with my perverted dad, too. And then apologize to me again! Because I am Aviva!!!!!

[Debb70]

Last night Sonja was on with Andy and when questioned about her daughter, said that her daughter understood that the show is a drama documentary or something like that. Code word for fake IMO. She said her daugher understood. And as far as the nude swimming. She said her daughter knew she swam nude and it was fine.

I think that Aviva really has lost it. Everytime I see her and her dad together I get this sickening feeling. I think Bravo pushed the envelope too far on this storyline. It's just too gross.

Ref. the comments upthread about time deadline on Sonja's divorce. I do practice divorce law and while I'm not licensed in NY, I know that most states have deadlines for your property division disputes. Most states require you to file your claim BEFORE the divorce is final and then wrap it up within so many months. You settle or have a trial. So Sonja saying she would file a legal action is odd. Maybe there was a prenup that has been disputed and that is what they are arguing about. That makes more sense.

[PA Snow Bunny]

Aviva is actually making Kelly look sane. Who the heck does Aviva think she is, the moral police? How dare she try & tell women she barely knows who to live their lives? I have no problem with anyone letting loose while on vacation if they aren't driving or hurting anyone. Sonja is a single woman...so what if she has a 1 nighter with Tomas? It is her business!
Ramona is right...Aviva has a stick up her butt.

[Starbucks880]

This is probably the first season I have liked Ramona more than most of the housewives. I thought Kelly was bad. Aviva in addition to thinking she is superior is just plain nuts. I would be willing to bet Ramona called her ex husband because he knows how crazy she is an to get insight on how to deal with her. I also think Ramona is not as much of a drunk as the show tries to make her out to be. To me she seems more of a social drinker and one who likes to let loose on vacation. She and Sonja did nothing wrong or outrageous. I did think it was a bit odd for Sonja and Luann to share the same guy, but they are all consenting adults. If she can laugh off her father pressing his erection against a woman in public and all his other disgusting vulgar comments, why does she then have a problem with Ramona and Sonja? And I didn't think her father could get any more disgusting--going to an all woman's event (and let's face it he obviously creeps out women, for good reason), verbally abusing Ramona for a fight he knows nothing about, grabbing her arm and visually squeezing it--at a woman's abuse event, and then calling her a "trailer turd" at her own event. As Luann's song says "Money can't buy you class". Plus Aviva really does make up things--did anyone else notice that the way the wall was in Ramona and Sonja's made it impossible to see the bed from the door, so from her alleged vantage point she could not have seen Ramona and Sonja naked together in the bed. The cameras also clearly show the other ladies dancing on tables as well. I also find it odd how she can fault Sonja for sleeping with Tomas yet be ok with her father's "girlfriends" (probably the girlfriends are his favorite escorts, the fact that Carol admits to not being monogamous with her boyfriend, or Luann getting drunk and sleeping with other men that are not Jacques. Lots of pot meet kettle moments.

Seeing her and her father interact makes me see how her mother could be driven to turn to the bottle. Alcoholism is a serious thing. I bet George was a philanderer from the beginning, and his sexual innuendo towards his own daughter makes me wonder if something inappropriate went on.

Anyway, I don't think I will watch if Aviva is on next season. She is even more insufferable than Kelly. the only way she could be palatable is if she does a Camille and become awesome in season 2.

[buttahfly]

LOLOLOLOLOL, that was a much better post than my "didn't they have anal sex???" that i was going to post lol

Pardon me, but if Carol was correct in what she observed Sonja and Tomas doing, then I think we could say that Tomas humped Sonja in the "back of her garden!"

[AcookerTV]

I don't want to minimize the trauma of an accident that would lead to a leg being amputated. Not do I want to pretend that having a prosthetic leg would not cause hardships throughout life. But Aviva relies on it way too much. When Ramona was talking about hardships, and Aviva responded with "I lost a leg" it made me feel sorry for Aviva that she doesn't realize that if she has to go back that far to find hardship in her life, then she's led a REALLY good life!