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    Quote Originally Posted by tears.and.rain;4108286;
    My guess is because she's illiterate.
    I was tempted to say the same thing but I am trying to be a better person.

    My main focus of frustration is Camille. Unless you personally have had cancer you don't KNOW what it is like. Just because you have the genetic gene mutation doesn't mean you will ever get cancer so sorry but I don't buy into her personal pity routine.

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    I'm not sure if anyone caught this on the last show. Someone stated Camille's mother was having "topical treatment" for her cancer. Which leads me to the conclusion that it is some type of skin cancer. The treatment is most likely
    5-FU. 5-FU is a topical chemotherapy that is used in any type of skin cancer. So Camille gets tested for the "skin cancer" gene? Don't we all have the potential for that? Oh the drama.

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    All this talk about Camille and Kyle reminded me of an incident years ago when I had started a new job. I asked a co worker, in a friendly manner (I thought), if that was her boyfriend that had been talking to her at the counter. She said yes, so I said, *Wow, he is very handsome!* I thought she would just accept the compliment but instead got very offended and said something like *You don't think I am good looking enough for him??* or something along those lines. I was surprised because I thought she was very pretty...but apparently she was insecure about whatever flaws she perceived in herself.
    I'll bet Kyle made an offhand remark re Kelsy not being there and Camille just took it to the next level because of her insecurities that no one is really interested in her boring self.

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    Just an observation, but when Kelsey does his interviews with Bravo, it seems as if he is choosing his words thoughtfully. His new girlfriend is in NYC, right? That is likely why he wanted to stay there. If he was already dating her (or minimally interested in dating her), that would have happened during filming of RHoBH.

    So far, all we've seen him talk about how marriage can be hard. Plus, when he sees Camille, it's as if he wants to shake her hand rather than hug and kiss her.

    I believe she senses the distance.

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    I read an extremely astute observation about Camille. She said that *she* was the one who kept Kelsey sober for umpteen years. The person said that anyone with an ounce of understanding of Al-Anon principles woud realize just have far away from Kelsey's best interests she is in saying such a thing.

    I'm not super familiar with the 12 steps or Al-Anon, and I can't exactly recall how this person put it, but it was something along the lines of her not understanding that the abuser recovers on and for him/herself and that those around the abuser must recognize this if the abuser is to recover - AND if they are to be emotionally healthy themselves.

    Darn. It was really well stated. I wish I could remember it.

    Anyway, when I start to feel an ounce of sympathy for this woman, I think of this and realize she is in this for no one but herself - much less for her addicted husband who she purports to have saved.

    Kelsey may be a babe-hound, but he has made his own way in this world - good or bad - and has never claimed to be anything more than a human being trying to get by under difficult circumstances.

    As it is, I think he's being rather gracious to Camille.

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    I believe she senses the distance.

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    She talks about this on her Bravo blog and admits that there were signs of problems during the time they were filming this.

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    Jexter - that's absolutely correct about the Alcohol addiction. Only an addict can break their addiction. For Camille to say she did it is disgraceful.

    I give immense credit to the spouses and loved ones of addicts who support them through their recovery. It is NOT easy. But that doesn't mean that YOU did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tears.and.rain;4109109;
    Jexter - that's absolutely correct about the Alcohol addiction. Only an addict can break their addiction. For Camille to say she did it is disgraceful.

    I give immense credit to the spouses and loved ones of addicts who support them through their recovery. It is NOT easy. But that doesn't mean that YOU did it.
    And, I just read that Camille Grammer - formerly Camille Donatacci - is a former porn star and a prostitute. Just google the name and the info is endless.

    Found this too:


    Camille Grammer, Kelsey Grammer's Ex, Dishes About The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills - The Daily Beast

    FredPalerThis is absurd, and as someone who knows both parties, let me respond to Camille. First, let's keep this in mind: when Kelsey met Camille, she was a Playboy model, a soft core porn actress in such films as "The Naked Detective," and a prostitute in the Arab world, which is where she made most of her money (by the way, ask her about Prince Jefri's trial, and watch her jaw drop). Despite this - maybe because of it - Kelsey married Camille, and they were fine. But then Camille seemed to feel Kelsey owed his success to her; she also decided that she needed more attention, and in her 40's, decided to go back to modeling her plastic surgery, and appearing on TV. Kelsey was worried that the new attention on Camille would cause attention to her past, particularly her on and off stints in Brunei as one of the Sultan's prostitutes. How would the kids feel about this? So when he was in New York, he thought that maybe his relationship with Camille had run its course. He did the best he could. He helped her with her irritable bowels, looked past her past, and brought her in as a mother and a partner. But it seemed as if she was looking to become famous at the expense of her family, and that was a bit too much for Kelsey. So his former wife should just let it go, and move on with her life, too. Hopefully she will get the fame and credit she wants.
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    "He helped her with her irritable bowels..."

    Best line ever!!
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    Cannot STAND Camille. Cannot.stand.her. She does take everything out of context. I couldn't imagine being married to a person like that. Must be totally exhausting. Maybe that's why Kelsey split.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by Jexter;4108767;
    Just an observation, but when Kelsey does his interviews with Bravo, it seems as if he is choosing his words thoughtfully. His new girlfriend is in NYC, right? That is likely why he wanted to stay there. If he was already dating her (or minimally interested in dating her), that would have happened during filming of RHoBH.

    So far, all we've seen him talk about how marriage can be hard. Plus, when he sees Camille, it's as if he wants to shake her hand rather than hug and kiss her.

    I believe she senses the distance.


    I think all of Kelsey's PI's were done at the same time. That time being after he had decided to leave her. I think he did one long interview giving a bit of his side and an out for the series for the breakup that happened during filming. All of his interviews are centered on their marriage, Camille, kids, and himself as an individual. There is no current to filming talk of things and activities going on. It's one long soliloque broken into parts to out over the season leading up to the breakup.




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