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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Jon Hamm said it all. Check out his comment about the Housewives.

    Jon Hamm: Reality-TV Is For Fame-Seekers With 'Zero Dignity' | Fancast News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oompaloopa;4100976;
    Jon Hamm said it all. Check out his comment about the Housewives.

    Jon Hamm: Reality-TV Is For Fame-Seekers With 'Zero Dignity' | Fancast News
    I don't know. I see where he is coming from, but it is pretty self-important to look down on these women.

    I don't begrudge them for taking advantage of a few extra bucks, some fame, great trips and experiences, and exposure for any businesses they have going.

    While some of the housewive's egos have exploded, I think they all realize their place in the fame spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexter;4100981;
    I don't know. I see where he is coming from, but it is pretty self-important to look down on these women.

    I don't begrudge them for taking advantage of a few extra bucks, some fame, great trips and experiences, and exposure for any businesses they have going.

    While some of the housewive's egos have exploded, I think they all realize their place in the fame spectrum.
    Sorry, I don't think that they know the difference between real talent and just plain old celebrity! They're all (the housewives) willing to take their shot at fame or infamy (which ever they get)! It's a lot different than someone who works hard at a craft and is successful at it. It's really a shame that some of these women are admired or adored just as much as a truly gifted actor! On the same note, it's crazy that ANY actor (or celebrity) is as admired as much as someone who is a great doctor (or nurse)or humanitarian! This is why so many of the famous join causes that are more important than "just" being another pretty face on the silver screen. Anyway, I don't think that these shows are on to make us admire these women or worship them. Why should we? Who are they? I've always felt like they are a science experiment. Give a bunch of rats fame and how do they react? They're no better than rats in a cage fighting over the bits of food thrown to them! Instead of food, these women, fight over camera time! That's what they need for survival! They do anything that they can to stay famous! They don't care how bad they look or what details we find out about their finances! They just want to be celebrities and included on the next season of whichever show they are on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvaholic;4101005;
    Sorry, I don't think that they know the difference between real talent and just plain old celebrity! They're all (the housewives) willing to take their shot at fame or infamy (which ever they get)! It's a lot different than someone who works hard at a craft and is successful at it. It's really a shame that some of these women are admired or adored just as much as a truly gifted actor! On the same note, it's crazy that ANY actor (or celebrity) is as admired as much as someone who is a great doctor (or nurse)or humanitarian! This is why so many of the famous join causes that are more important than "just" being another pretty face on the silver screen. Anyway, I don't think that these shows are on to make us admire these women or worship them. Why should we? Who are they? I've always felt like they are a science experiment. Give a bunch of rats fame and how do they react? They're no better than rats in a cage fighting over the bits of food thrown to them! Instead of food, these women, fight over camera time! That's what they need for survival! They do anything that they can to stay famous! They don't care how bad they look or what details we find out about their finances! They just want to be celebrities and included on the next season of whichever show they are on!
    Your first sentences, tvaholic, said it all. I don't think they (housewives and sometimes the public) make a distinction between different types of celebrity. To them, famous is famous and that's all that matters. If they could see how we see them, they'd be embarrassed but they don't.

    I agree with Jon Hamm's assessment of movie, porn and reality stars. They are different but even though film stars are practicing a "craft," and as much as I like him, he's a little delusional and somewhat pompous in thinking that acting is such a lofty career. Basically, it means you're very good at "pretending." Not exactly a career requiring years of extensive education, as would a doctor, scientist, etc. Basically, he's no different than the Housewives: if enough people tell them that they are "special," they start to believe it and it's apparent that Jon has bought into it also.

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    I don't know, I think talents like acting or singing or other fine arts are special in that it doesn't matter how long you study them, if you don't have talent you don't have talent. I could study my butt off and be a math whiz, but no matter how hard I try I'll never be a great singer or actor.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by Oompaloopa;4100976;
    Jon Hamm said it all. Check out his comment about the Housewives.

    Jon Hamm: Reality-TV Is For Fame-Seekers With 'Zero Dignity' | Fancast News
    You know, the same could be said for actors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tears.and.rain;4101249;
    I don't know, I think talents like acting or singing or other fine arts are special in that it doesn't matter how long you study them, if you don't have talent you don't have talent. I could study my butt off and be a math whiz, but no matter how hard I try I'll never be a great singer or actor.
    I do agree. All anyone has to do is walk into any Acting 101 class and see how terrible the majority of the people who 'study' acting vs those who have an innate ability to characterize

    Like a nurse...anyone can study to become a nurse, but only a small percentage have the 'knack' for putting in IVs the first time, or cath insertion or even empathy and relating with their patients.

    Its the same for every profession, anyone can do a job, but only a small percentage SHOULD be doing that job

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by canuck;4100081;
    Definitely NOT WLA -- it's where I am -- It really is Beverly Hills/Malibu/Hollywood Hills/and elite parts of the Valley and that ilk -- although it's on the west side of Los Angeles. And the movie/music industry is a different animal. There's nothing surprising on RHOBH. Others around the country never exposed to it before, so everyone shocked. As you know, they DO think they need these managers and nannies. It's a different way of life. However, there are many wives of high end doctors and attorneys and miscellaneous other rich people who are no different than these housewives. It's what they do. Majority don't stay grounded and yet some do.
    I went to UCLA 1999-2003, so its not the most recent of recent. And LA has changed a LOT since then, but I worked in WLA, because I was living at UCLA and did not want to have to worry about 'commuting' down Wilshire or even Santa Monica into BH or travel a bit south into Palisades or Brentwood. I was able to work the neighborhood just off of Sunset, north of the school. I am having a major brain fart, but it was in the same neighborhood as the Spellings and Hef's place....Had one family right off of Mulholland. I am not a LA person so I can't recall for the life of me what that neighborhood is called. So I apologize if its not called WLA even though it technically belongs, but probably does have its fancier subtitle.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    bel air, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ownlyanangel20;4101345;
    I went to UCLA 1999-2003, so its not the most recent of recent. And LA has changed a LOT since then, but I worked in WLA, because I was living at UCLA and did not want to have to worry about 'commuting' down Wilshire or even Santa Monica into BH or travel a bit south into Palisades or Brentwood. I was able to work the neighborhood just off of Sunset, north of the school. I am having a major brain fart, but it was in the same neighborhood as the Spellings and Hef's place....Had one family right off of Mulholland. I am not a LA person so I can't recall for the life of me what that neighborhood is called. So I apologize if its not called WLA even though it technically belongs, but probably does have its fancier subtitle.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by Ownlyanangel20;4101314;
    You know, the same could be said for actors...
    Agreed! I can't recall who it was, but it was some famous actor who said actors are famewhores to begin with. Their job is to be watched by others. You can't get much more fame whorey than that.

    Wanting fame isn't a crime. And, some are just born craiving it. I remember an interest inventory test I took in college. It indicated that I have an intereset in entertaining which never occurred to me. I had my interests on being a teacher. The counselor said the professions were similar in many respects...on stage, commanding attention (hopefully), inspiring (hopefully) etc.

    I'd take fame if offered - and any money and good experiences that came my way as a result.

    I honestly don't find the concept of the Real Housewives show disturbing on that level. Some of the women are another story.

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