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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    I could use a "house" manager. Actually I could use a "life" manager.

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    Camille-- I don't feel sorry for her. I don't abjectly dislike or like her. I'm on the fence. I remember her from when she and Kelsey were first married and before they had their kids. First, I don't believe cheating is right. Let me get that out of the way. Now, for what I think or see in Camille. Physically, she's attractive coming in second or third among the BH housewives. She has a great body, best asset. If you look at her from a distance body and face look good. Up close in good light her age shows in her face. Look at those PI scenes in the episode where she was in the shop looking for stuff to decorate NY apartment to see what I mean. However, still relatively good for her age. There would be plenty of sugardaddies, cubs, and middle aged men who would love to have her. She had a big issue with her marriage to Kelsey. The fact that she was second to him, just the wife of Kelsey Grammer, nothing on her own independent of him. She wants to be seen as equal, independent of, and successful as Kelsey in her own right. Small problem, everything she is right now is connected to and because of her marriage to Kelsey. Her dancing career was her own. Her kids she had to have help with. So, now she spends all her time trying to prove to everyone that she is the woman behind the man, the reason Kelsey is successful. So, that she can be seen as more independent of him. I think her growing pains and Kelsey's own issues caused problems in the marriage long before the NY move and affair. They were already distant from each other. I think she's super sensitive about the issue of being Mrs. Kelsey Grammer, instead of just Camille, and it colors her relationships with the other women. I think it plays into the argument with Kyle. She says she wants to be independent, yet even now she's still holding onto the Kelsey Grammer perks. She wants to keep Kelsey's name, she wants to keep working with him, etc. on and on. She says Kelsey hooked up to do the show. Bravo said she was the one that called them. Either way if she wants to be truly independent she needs to try and make a business and go of something on her own separate from Kelsey. It will take longer and not be as easy but, she can do it and she'll still be taken care of by her divorce settlement and child support. It's what she should have done when they were still together. Then, maybe her resentment wouldn't have been so great. Plus, she needs to check herself in her actions around men. Her flirtatious nature with guys crossed boundaries. She said she's a guys girl because women can be catty. Well, they can be especially catty if your all over their husbands and they don't know you well. She doesn't know these women well and she was all over their husbands. Even if the women were self-confident and their marriages strong & intact, which all of them aren't, they would have a dim view of her for her lack of respect for their husband's marital status and her own. Her actions with her tennis partner/actor friend was a bit of acting out in it's own way comparable to Kelsey's affair. It just didn't go the full monty. Both signals of the state of their marriage. So, not quite blindsided in my mind.

    Adrienne-- I like her. I like that she's into her family business. Comfortable with sports and being rich-girl casual. I think there is a bit of something there going on in her marriage. They joke sometimes but it's slightly uncomfortable. I don't think it's major yet but it's there. However, she's her own woman, independent, confident, generous, generally nice, and gets along with the other women.

    Tammy--I in general like her. I think she's attractive. A bit to thin but, a good body. If she keeps her hair done right(bangs covering where she too thin in th eface on the sides of her head) and gets her upper lip reduced (ala Lisa Rinna) she would be fine. Her main problem is her marriage. She reads as an abused, controlled woman, especially in that Las Vegas scene when her husband said they should leave the group. I think she genuinely care sfor her daughter and that's part of the reason she stays. She works but, I haven't got a read yet into exactly how active she is into business and working yet. She knows the husband could trade her in So, i would hope she was working on making a way for herself to support herself and get out of the marriage.

    Lisa-- I love her. She's so cute and so is Giggy! I think she's confident, secure, and her own woman. She's nice and gets along with most of the women. She's into her restaurants and other interests. I think there are issues with her kids common in the rich and those living in LA. However, I think her marriage is good. They've sort of settled into their roles in the marriage.

    Kim-- She's co-dependent, needy, and has poor social skills. However, I don't think all of her woes can be laid at the feet of being a child star. There are plenty of child stars more social than she is and plenty of women like her who have are not rich and have never been a child star. SHe's super clingy with her children. She's lonely. So she grabs onto her children and her sister. She probably was super clingy with her exes. She doesn't like doing things on her own but, she doesn't want to make the effort to step outside of her comfort zone to make friends. SHe's not doing anything to make a life for herself separate from her kids, sisters, or a husband. She's envious of her sister's married life, relationship with her children and easy ability to make friends. So, she plays on old sisterly wounds and history between them. She wants to make the decisions in her family and with her life but, at the same times she can;t do them without having her sister back them up. SHe's pushing her kids and sister away with her clingyness (SP?) and co-dependence. She's thin as rail but, hasn't aged well. She looks way older than her years. I don't dislike her but, that's only because I know where her personality and attitude comes from.

    Kyle--I love her! I think she's gorgeus and the prettiest BH housewife. I think she's real and just herself. She gets along with most of the housewives. I think she has a beautiful face and a great shapely body. She, however, has a bit of an issue with her weight. She wants to be thinner. I think she looks great curvy for her age. Plus, it hasn't been that long since she had her last baby. However, since she's a bit sensitive about her weight that plays into barbs she gets from Kim who is rail thin. I think she has a good marriage and god relationship with her children and nieces and nephews. I think Kyle is caught bewteen a rock and a hard place in her relationship with her sister Kim. She cares about her sister and feels beholden to this promise she made to her mother. However, it really is one of those situations where she and Kim are so different and if they weren't sisters they might not even be friends. Kim says hse wants Kyle to stay out of getting in between things with her children on one-hand. Then, at the very same time she's asking Kyle to step in and back her up on something involving them. If she tries to help Kim says she's interfering. If she stays out of it Kim says she not being there for her. Loyalty means that even if someone makes an idiotic mistake you'll be there for them in the end. It doesn't mean you'll help them make them make the mistake or agree with them when they do it. On the one hand Kyle wants to help Kim maintain a healthy relationship woth her children while encouraging her to be more independent. On the other hand she has a good relatiosnhip with her nieces & nephews and wants to maintain that while helping them to achieve their own wishes and dreams sepaarate from their mother. It's a bit of a lose-lose situation. Add to that the fact that she and Kim have old sister stuff that rears it's head every onc ein a while that they haven't dealt with. I don't think she's that jealous of Kim rior career. Kyle had her own career, though not as prolific, and she still acts and gets parts when she want to still today. She's a bit envious of Kim thinness, but, she's far more attractive and youthful looking than Kim. She's happy and content in her marriage. I think in genereal she cares about her sister and wants to help her but, she gets exasperated and tired of dealing with her sister's ways at times. She caught between a rock and a hard place and may need to let her sister sink or swim on her own. See if she learns to float, lol.


    Forgive the long commentary on the wives. JMO
    This was an excellent analysis of these women. I think you're correct on all of them.
    The only problem I have with Lisa is the "houseguest." That's kinda odd. Somebody must be getting something in return for him staying with (leeching off) them. Nobody, no matter how wealthy, allows a squatter to remain unless there is something in exchange. Just odd to me.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by dustypants;4095641;
    Ok, I have yet to sit through an entire episode, but have caught bits and pieces thus far (I would probably really enjoy this installment, if I had the time to invest). I will say, though, that I didn't like Camille from her first 10 minutes on the show. I caught a few minutes of a rerun from last night, can someone explain why she couldn't call Kelsey herself on her walk to the "office", why did she need her "house manager" to do that?? And do they all have house managers?
    I don't care much for Camille and her sense of entitlement. Four nannies, a house manager, and a host of other servants/employees/helpers. I'd like to refer those folks who were upset with Bethenny (RHNY) for daring to hire one measly baby nurse -- to this woman who has a staff of servants she doesn't even need. Talk about self indulgence!!!

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    I was in a waiting room this morning and read a People magazine with a long article about Camille. It's the one with Prince William and his girl friend on the cover. Didn't learn much, but it sure gave her a lot of publicity. I'm sure Bravo was happy - maybe they'll get some new viewers.

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    i can't stand camille. i am not a fan of women who call themselves "guys' girls". if you can't get along w other women, that says something about YOU. her behavior in vegas was beyond inappropriate as far as i am concerned.

    and it annoyed me to no end that she kept talking abt not being a drinker, but as soon as the men order patron shots, she wants one?!?!?!

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    Camille is an idiot. I feel sorry for her a bit but not much.

    She is one of those women who has never had anything going for her except her looks. She doesn't strike me as business smart, or even smart in general. She isn't fun, like the kind of woman others want to hang out with. She isn't motherly. She had another woman give birth to both of her children and I've never heard of IBS preventing a woman from conceiving or carrying a pregnancy to term. She has 4 nannies to raise them. She mentions in Vegas that her son has had the stomach flu for the past 2 days, yet there she is doing her stripper dance in Vegas instead of at home with her sick child.

    She wasn't insulted when Adrienne's husband shoved a $5 bill between her big fake boobs and she didn't seem to care that her behavior with the men was pissing the ladies off. I don't think she knows how to communicate with anyone any other way.

    What Kelsey did absolutely wasn't right, but he does have a long history of moving on to the next younger blonde after awhile. I'm not sure why she's surprised it happened to her too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperfect1;4096209;
    I don't care much for Camille and her sense of entitlement. Four nannies, a house manager, and a host of other servants/employees/helpers. I'd like to refer those folks who were upset with Bethenny (RHNY) for daring to hire one measly baby nurse -- to this woman who has a staff of servants she doesn't even need. Talk about self indulgence!!!
    House manager...god that takes me back to going to college at UCLA. I worked as a nanny and house manager during my college years for the "elite". Its amazing how many of the rich and successful couples go through their staff. Especially when the rich and successful one is the husband, and the wife isn't. Should write a book a la The Nanny Diaries...god, I nearly forgot about those 4 years....wishful thinking? lol Camille, to me, is the typical housewife in West L.A. for the typical Hollywood actor/director/producer; they almost always take full credit for their husband's accomplishments and sincerely believe that their man would be nothing without the wives input. And when the marriage dissolves, the woman is only left with the reality of the situation: she was/is just a shell of a human being. It's sad.

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    I think someone needs to give Camille a copy of Jackie Collins Hollywood Wives.
    Has kelsey Grammer been faithful to any woman he has been involved in? I mean, I just don't get it. He's not all that good looking but I supposed money & the chance of being on the cover of People Magazine can make anyone good looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahfly;4096454;
    i can't stand camille. i am not a fan of women who call themselves "guys' girls". if you can't get along w other women, that says something about YOU. her behavior in vegas was beyond inappropriate as far as i am concerned.
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    Re: The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

    Quote Originally Posted by buttahfly;4096454;
    i can't stand camille. i am not a fan of women who call themselves "guys' girls". if you can't get along w other women, that says something about YOU. her behavior in vegas was beyond inappropriate as far as i am concerned.

    and it annoyed me to no end that she kept talking abt not being a drinker, but as soon as the men order patron shots, she wants one?!?!?!
    Me too!!! And people who are not much of a drinker, don't drink Tequila in the early day time.
    I could maybe see a Mimosa or a beer then but Tequila????? That packs a wallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA Snow Bunny;4096476;
    Has kelsey Grammer been faithful to any woman he has been involved in? I mean, I just don't get it. He's not all that good looking but I supposed money & the chance of being on the cover of People Magazine can make anyone good looking.
    I think he's pretty repulsive looking, money and fame, or not.

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