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    Quote Originally Posted by AngloAm;3509596;
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    But! Teresa strongly and increasingly shriekingly implied that Danielle had done at least some, if not all, of the unsavoury deeds described, that she was in fact a "prostitution whore" (likes redundancy does our Teresa). It was all about Danielle being 'garbage' (like T. called her in an earlier episode).


    That to me was the big difference. Between Danielle and the Sisters of Unmercy, there was a dispute about disrespect and manners. It was on one level not personal. It was deeply personal between Danielle and Teresa the Table Overturner, it was all about sex...sex...SEX.

    Teresa's husband, I bet, cheated/cheats on her all the time. Maybe even with prostitution whores. Or she cheats on him. Or she was sexually abused as a kid. Whatever it is, Tabella is really sensitive to sexual misconduct, especially of the husband-stealing variety and to being called stupid. To disorder and contempt.

    She uses sex like mad (to her hubby, to the movers - did she really need to wear those microshorts around the moving men or to talk about being sore from being rogered by the brick wall husband) and she uses dumbness like mad (oh, silly me, what's that giggle giggle giggle) but she doesn't like other people to talk about it. Others must be pure and orderly.

    I also noticed that she shows a lot of anxiety vis-a-vis hubby...she was irritated when Danielle, ever the tactless boorette, disrespected her hubby (never mind that he dissed a whole section of humanity). That really pissed her off. Royally, flounce-offaly.

    Against this, I guess, one could put her relative calmness about the rumors about Danielle when she was talking to Jacqui...she thought that even if some of it was true, some wasn't and she seemed not to mind that awfully. But boy did she fly off the handle when it was there in black-and-white, and she saw RED!

    Whoa Nelly there. You maybe onto something AngloAm. We most likely will never know for sure but the way I saw her DH "trying to peek at the new girls" and then Teresa's talking about how he was acting when they got home after surgery..this is not a kind, honorable or respectful man. And then Teresa's "over-reaction" with the table at the dinner could very well be her issues surfacing. Danielle puts off a very sexual predatory vibe which bugs Teresa..
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    The first thing she said about hubby (T that is) is that he's an a** man. As if - that's the only reason he's with me. He's said she spends too much but doesn't mind when he sees her taking care of the kids. (Not, you know, like for her own qualities.) And I swear that she lied about the dance lessons; she told Jacquie that it was her hubby's wish to dance like "on Dancing with the Stars" but when Joe turned up, he went on about how this was "the gayest thing I've ever done." (I wonder what he was comparing it to?) Either she lied, or he had to cover up wanting to twinkle his toes with a lot of macho bluster. People generally don't go on about the 'mos unless they're insecure around them.

    I'm just saying, is all.

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    She may not be blood but she is Family. Danielle used her fake friendship with Jacqueline to try to get to Dina. Danielle wants so bad to be in that little click she made "friends" with Jacqueline to gain intro to their world. The problem is Caroline and Dina don't want her around and don't even try to hide it from her.

    I feel no sorrow for Danielle because her inappropriate behavior and her sorted past is why she is shunned by anyone with a brain. Jacqueline apparently sits on her brain so she didn't get the memo. If your friend spends most of her time talking about herself and trying to get info on your family she probably isn't much of a friend.

    Danielle is desperate she has no problems trying to attend things with people who don't want her around. Frankly if someone was insinuating themselves into my family and I found out about their Kidnapping, drugs, and Colombian mob ties I would let the world know also. Who wants that kind of trash near their kids and family?

    I feel a bit sorry for Danielle, but then I always feel sorry for the one alone. She could have handled 'the book' way better by either (a) not going on the show, or (b) addressing it fast, in detail, and honesty. I bet if she'd done (b) and handled Caroline properly she'd be honorary 'famlee' right now.

    And Caroline would flatten the ex-husband with one blow from her sausage cooking fingers.

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    Video previews are up on the Bravo site of the upcoming reunion show (there's three) .

    I thought Caroline's and Dina's brother who is a decorator was gay, and it turns out they have two brothers who are gay. I thought Teresa's husband's "gaylord" remarks that he made at the dance studio were rude, and I felt the only reason Caroline and Dina didn't take offense to what he said was 1. because Danielle did and 2. T's husband is in the "in group". They were bending over backward in the reunion show to defend T's husband. Then the interviewer injected his view on the subject...

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    Ta ever so. Don't be offended but I like my theory better; what it lacks in veracity it makes up for in deliciousness.

    I thought things at the beginning were which is why I think everyone was so angry with Danielle. I mean most of the people there didn't like her, and knew she was none too fond of them, but they tried to make her feel welcome. Teresa especially. I think even D. Rex smiled (gagging inside) and was at least civil enough to ward off indigestion. They were lauging and feeling their way around the shrimp and making off colour needless sex jokes (in front of the kids nogal) and generally acting nice and normal and likeable. Even D. Rex and Danielle...but Danielle did have that little sneer-smile combo working.

    Until she chucked the table I felt really sorry for Teresa; she'd arranged the dinner, she bit her tongue when Danielle brought "the book" out, she agreed to let the conversation, which anyone could tell would be horrible, go on (some might have tried to stop Danielle but she was like a runaway train at that point, blind to brakes and heedless of signals), she even seemed to moderate anger with more of a indulgent expression that didn't radiate anger.

    But! The other two, D. Rex and the Traffic Cop, never really said that the believed "the book" and Danielle never said she thought they did. It was all about the book parade into the Chateau des Cheveux.

    But! Teresa strongly and increasingly shriekingly implied that Danielle had done at least some, if not all, of the unsavoury deeds described, that she was in fact a "prostitution whore" (likes redundancy does our Teresa). It was all about Danielle being 'garbage' (like T. called her in an earlier episode).

    Teresa's diatribe had a nastier edge to it than the Gruesome Twosome's. Had it not been for that, I bet that peace could have been brought between the G.2 and Danielle. D probably should have mentioned 'the book' to everyone with a kid, and the G.2 probably shouldn't have shopped it around town without asking D first if and to what extent it was true. Grudging apologies all around and what's for dessert. Mmmm spumoni!

    That to me was the big difference. Between Danielle and the Sisters of Unmercy, there was a dispute about disrespect and manners. It was on one level not personal. It was deeply personal between Danielle and Teresa the Table Overturner, it was all about sex...sex...SEX.

    Teresa's husband, I bet, cheated/cheats on her all the time. Maybe even with prostitution whores. Or she cheats on him. Or she was sexually abused as a kid. Whatever it is, Tabella is really sensitive to sexual misconduct, especially of the husband-stealing variety and to being called stupid. To disorder and contempt.

    She uses sex like mad (to her hubby, to the movers - did she really need to wear those microshorts around the moving men or to talk about being sore from being rogered by the brick wall husband) and she uses dumbness like mad (oh, silly me, what's that giggle giggle giggle) but she doesn't like other people to talk about it. Others must be pure and orderly.

    I also noticed that she shows a lot of anxiety vis-a-vis hubby...she was irritated when Danielle, ever the tactless boorette, disrespected her hubby (never mind that he dissed a whole section of humanity). That really pissed her off. Royally, flounce-offaly.

    Against this, I guess, one could put her relative calmness about the rumors about Danielle when she was talking to Jacqui...she thought that even if some of it was true, some wasn't and she seemed not to mind that awfully. But boy did she fly off the handle when it was there in black-and-white, and she saw RED!
    I'm not offended...I like your version better too. I am only jealous cuz I didn't come up with it...

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    I taped the last couple episodes, but didn't watch until bored this morning. My thoughts on the finale:

    Although considered a reality show, there are inevitable practicalities, such as 1) Bravo, not Teresa/Joe, paid for the homewarming party which the cast knew was the season finale; 2) Given the finale was a contractual obligation, Danielle was required to attend, not invited out of the goodness of Teresa's heart, as portrayed; 3) Based on footage shown of Danielle & her daughters' entrance, neither she nor her daughters brought the book to the restaurant (small clutches & dresses, no oversized pockets). It appears the book was a prop supplied by the producers & a known subject for the finale (although probably specifically stated, it should have been obvious given it was the theme of the show!).

    Danielle
    IMHO she is a complete trainwreck who thrives on drama, constantly demands center stage, struggles with relationships/boundaries, & has a questionable best-friend/oversharing/too-much-reality parenting approach to which I don't subscribe. Despite her obvious & admitted flaws, I admire that she encourages her daughters to excel in school & athletics & strives to help them build self-confidence & make better choices than she did. Although probably needing much future counseling, especially after participating in & processing the information learned during this reality experience, her daughters seem the least entitled of the real kids.

    I cannot comprehend how someone with her admitted past would voluntarily participate in a reality show, expose her identity (which she claims to have changed for safety reasons), & invite potential harm to herself & her children. However, she owns - although perhaps not 100% of the details - who she was then & is today (obsessed with her appearance, wanting any attention, & seeking a wealthy spouse) more than any of the other housewives.

    At the dinner, which the cast knew was the season finale, it appears she wanted to take the opportunity to acknowledge & confront those who had exposed the book around town & tell her side of the story. Since she had already discussed her perspective with her daughters, plus seemingly not having a nanny, it appears she didn't see the need or was unable to dismiss her daughters from the discussion. She seemed genuinely surprised at the others' reaction. Had she known the language & violence, I would hope she would have reconsidered having her daughters, especially the youngest, present.

    Jacqueline
    Based on the few episodes, she appears someone who is laid-back, patient, & accepting of others. She only becomes irate when pushed too far, which rarely happens.

    At the dinner it appears she chose to support the truth as known to her (i.e. Refuting Dina's claims of innocence since Dina was the person who had told Jacqueline about the book!), not necessarily defending Danielle as was perceived by her extended family. It appears her son was not in attendance at the finale; I admire their attempts to shield him from the show, involving him only in his birthday party bash & greeting grandparents.

    It was refreshing to watch her daughter earn car privileges; she seemed to need & crave boundaries. Hopefully it will lead to continued success in school...

    Dina
    IMHO she & Danielle don't get along because they're too much alike - gold-diggers, attention-seekers, manipulators, materialistic, appearance-conscience, etc. The difference is that Dina doesn't own it, rather she attempts to deny/camouflage by hiding behind her big sis, supposedly busy career or happy marriage, or other excuse.

    Although she wants to portray her & her daughter as having a close relationship, a few of the interactions have hinted otherwise. She's clearly teaching her daughter to value appearance & wealth, given the daughter not wanting a "fat mom," claiming it was better to exercise retail therapy than overeating while homesick in Greece, & the candy hoard in her room.

    If Dina was truly uninterested in Danielle, why devote time to talking about her? She keeps referencing "lies" that Danielle supposedly spread around town as her justification, yet viewers aren't privy to such back story. Also, the omission of her dh from the show makes her story incomplete & lack credibility.

    Caroline
    Throughout the season, she has seemed uncomfortable in every scene with the housewives occurring outside her home (e.g. shopping, dancing lessons); it seems these are not her normal activities unless a camera is rolling. She clearly prefers to control every situation; at home she is the ruler (which probably explains why 2 of her 3 children did not leave the nest/pursue college)!

    Given her admission to blackballing Danielle around town at the dinner (whether true or an effort to protect her younger sister), viewers learn the mature, down-to-earth persona she projected in the earlier episodes is false; she is a back-stabber & schemer who attempts to justify her behavior under the pretense of family. Of course, I found it ironic when Jacqueline's dh/Caroline's brother injected reason into the drama, informing them of their "foolish" behavior, & reminding them of their good fortune, Scolding his sisters debunked Caroline's emphatic statement that her family was "as thick as thieves" & always supported each other. I also considered Caroline's under-her-breath statement that Jacqueline was hurting Caroline's parents/Jacqueline's in-laws as a veiled threat.

    Of course, I'm a bit perplexed how Caroline, whose FIL was a known mobster, whose dh's best friend is Mr. Kerik (a former NYPD commissioner who AT THE TIME OF TAPING faced federal charges, including conspiracy & tax fraud, which were later dropped before he was indicted on similar charges in DC earlier this year), & who supports her son's aspiration to operate a carwash/strip club, could be concerned & so outraged about the single arrest 25 YEARS AGO of an acquaintance!

    Because I consider Caroline's eldest son the most intelligent of the entire bunch, I purposely sought his reaction to the dinner drama. Seated next to Danielle, he stood & protected her from the flying table settings; he never joined his family on the other side of the table. I find his reaction interesting...

    Teresa
    She is definitely the most ignorant, delusional, & fake of the bunch.

    For someone who flashes large bills in an attempt to portray herself as uber-wealthy, in just six episodes she received free &/or deeply discounted (in exchange for publicity on the show) furniture, an Atlantic City weekend, breast implants, etc.!

    For someone who isn't a stage mom, she seems obsessed with her daughters' appearances & encourages diva behavior & materialism. How many moms do you know that bribe their toddlers with lip gloss & allow them to rip-roar, bark demands, & run registers in boutiques?

    For someone who, during her brief & obviously scripted commentary, sees herself as "classy" & "not rude," she has discussed her "bubbies" ad nauseum with any- & everyone within earshot; referred to her breasts as "bubbies" during her appointment with her plastic surgeon where three friends tagged along; defended her dh's disrespectful gay slurs toward instructors during the dance lesson which was supposedly his idea; engaged in the conversation her dh began with Caroline's sons about the realness of their mom's breasts; was the first to show the book on camera; etc.

    Teresa's monopolizing play-by-play about her new "bubbies" (the never-ending subject), her marital relations, & sexual innuendo regarding oysters was deemed appropriate conversation for the "family dinner" with children present, but Danielle wanting to acknowledge rumors & share her perspective about the book was inappropriate & grounds for ordering the nanny to remove Teresa's young children. Plus, didn't Teresa realize others' children remained in the room, while her own children (& any others that were escorted out) could likely hear her screaming, vulgarity, & destruction from the hallway (& possibly even the parking lot)?

    I recognize there is a considerable amount of backstory, behind-the-scenes, editing, & amount of alcohol consumed to which the viewers aren't privy. IMHO there is no plausible justification for Teresa's incredibly barbaric behavior at a public restaurant while knowingly being filmed for national tv.

    If she can become so irate about a book discussing an acquaintance's alleged past from over two decades ago, supposedly prompted by Danielle's suggestion for her to "pay attention" then Teresa, more than anyone, should be able to respect Danielle's restraint & frustration with the behind-the-back rumors she & the others perpetuated around town & on tv for months!

    For someone who repetitively referred to Danielle as "garbage" after learning the details of the book (accepting it at face value without any known attempt to seek Danielle's perspective), IMHO her finale behavior makes her an expert!


    Basically, I can't decide which is more appauling - a financially-struggling parent with young children & a dangerously sordid past voluntarily starring in a reality show OR wealthy castmates who would willingly & hypocritically participate in the public humiliation of another person - all for money & "fame."

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    Re: The Real Housewives of New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandolf 5;3508936;
    In Caroline's blog on Bravo, she says her husband was supposed to be at this dinner as well but something came up at the B.stone and he had to work. She was communicating with him. In fact she states she had just got done telling him things were going well even with Dimwit there and everyone was laughing.
    Then the "book" throw down happened and all Hedoubletoothpix broke loose.
    I hope that helps.
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    I have to agree with Ms. Diva. I really enjoyed this version of RH, as well. The women seem more real than they do on some of the other versions. And I did feel that the family relationship, while a bit much at times, was very real.
    My favorite also. Followed by Atlanta, and that hot mess!

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    Angela (post 556), I absolutely agree with every point you made about the NJ cast.

    I would love to know why the show hasn't shared details as to what Danielle has said about Dina that has her in such a snit. The only thing from Dina's Bravo blog that she's mentioned as a major issue that I don't think we've seen on the show is something about $750 Danielle owed Dina's brother that had been an investment that had resulted in "thousands of dollars" in return. I believe Dina said Danielle ended up paying it, but it was a hassle getting it or something to that effect (at least that's the way I read it, but it was sort of garbled...similar to my description ).

    Here's the quote from Dina (Bravo Blog): "The $750 that I asked her to give to my brother was something Danielle gladly took the thousands and thousands of dollars profit that came out of the deal. By the way, I absolutely gave my brother that money and wasn’t included from the beginning either."
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    Isn't it funny how people can watch the same show & have didderent reactions

    This outburst with Teresa, given that she isn't the type to go off like that & not that I have heard anything, I am wondering with all of these allegations @ Danielle being a "husband-stealer", I am wondering if perhaps Teresa had a "light-bulb" moment. Perhaps her "hunky hubby" Joe & Danielle Hooked-up??? Just wondering.

    Of all of the housewife series, I am sorry but I just find nothing of value with Danielle. No matter how mean-spirited, rude, horrible, obnoxiuos, ect the housewives on the other shows have been, asking a guy you just met & were on a first date with to go hook-up in the bathroom..so over-the-top! Her daughters had to be the ones to tell her why she can't keep a guy.

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