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    Although I just read (above) an interesting theory as to why Jacqueline co-signed Ashlee's second car loan and Chris did not, I think a more realisitic probablility would be Jacqueline having a legal relationship with Ashlee and Chris does not.

    Anyway (and courtesy of LynnNChicago.com), Jacqueline has addressed the stripper/dancer rumor on her web page. I didn't really have an opinion before, but now believe she was never a stripper or Vegas dancer for what she mentions in her 3rd paragraph of her About Me page...

    My Mom, Bonnie, is a twin and my Dad, Jerome, is a retired Army Colonel. He was also Executive Vice President of Operations at the Riviera Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas...
    Vegas is a small town, in that no way would the daughter of an Executive Vice President of Operations at the Riviera Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas be stripping or "dancing."

    Nonetheless, Jacqueline details her employment history ...

    The jobs I worked in my life were: Babysitting continuously for various families, Salesperson for Limited Express ,Telemarketer for a Lawn service, Daycare provider ,Nanny to 2 kids ,Cosmetologist doing hair in a beauty Salon ,Convention Model for various companies. (Shoes, accessories, lingerie, swimsuits, electronics, computer systems, sports wear, etc.), Cocktail Waitress at Sam’s Town Hotel and Casino (local place not on the Las Vegas Strip) I worked Swing shift and Graveyard shift on every area in that hotel (Pool, Sports Bar, Restaurant, Lounge, The Pit, Sportsbook and the Floor) because I was “on call”. It was HARD work, tiring and redundant. God Bless those girls that are doing it, Cosmetic Salesperson at a department store for Lancome cosmetics. LOVED IT! Free lance Make-up Artist, Housewife, Reality TV cast member for Bravo’s ”The Real Housewives of New Jersey”
    (What I find especially interesting is Jacqueline considers being a Bravo Housewife as employment whereas Teresa considers herself not employed (and the $125,000 she makes annually being a Bravo Housewife unnecessary to report as income to the bankruptcy court).

    All About Me Jacqueline Laurita | Living Life Blog

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    Andy is doing this because of his own personal agenda. Teresa is not in charge of Juicy's mouth or his thoughts. Personally, I think Andy is overstepping his role as moderator here, esp since he already addressed the issue once.
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    So true!! Of course I'm completely for gay rights and I totally get what he was trying to say, but seriously Andy, get off it already!! Like you said he already attacked Theresa in the other reunion about something Juicy said. Also, he attacked Theresa in this reunion for something pseudo anti-Semitic that she said but I honestly don't think she meant anything by it, although it did sound pretty bad when he quoted her. She seems to just ramble without thinking sometimes.

    I completely agree that Andy was not being a fair moderator in this reunion at all. He was completely preoccupied with his own agenda. He could have saved that discussion for something else...maybe Watch What Happens Live or his blog...or whatever. And what gets me is how he is so quick to point out anything even remotely offensive to homosexuals or Jewish people and yet the premise of RHONJ is basically to poke fun at Italian Americans!! Also, I feel like they were kind of poking fun at Catholics this season too. Sooo...basically Andy is being a total hypocrite.

    Having said that, I usually LOVE Andy and do usually think he's really funny.
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    Yes. Vegas use to be small. It looks like a rock where two streets of casinos landed. Small enough to remember whoosie whatsis. That being said, I do not think she would want to offend any stripper friends of hers.

    I just think Andy might know that Theresa is not coming back; or he is pissed at Tre for some reason we do not know.... Like she might not be all that nice. When she is complaining, she sure does not sound feminine....just like her little clan of brawlers. He was just taking the opportunity.

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    Yes. Vegas use to be small. It looks like a rock where two streets of casinos landed. Small enough to remember whoosie whatsis. That being said, I do not think she would want to offend any stripper friends of hers.

    I just think Andy might know that Theresa is not coming back; or he is pisrsed at Tre for some reason we do not know.... Like she might not be all that nice. When she is complaining, she sure does not sound feminine....just like her little clan of brawlers. He was just taking the opportunity.
    Stripper friends?

    Actually, only because I know people, but ... regardless how large Vegas has become, the casino executives' world is small town, in that competing casinos also work together by sharing information. Additionally, a single mother deciding to move to Vegas to carve out a living for herself and her daughter is a much different event than a single mother deciding to move near her parents and her parents happen to live in Vegas. Thus, the likelihood of Jacqueline stripping (as the rumor said) or being a call girl (as a couple of posters here suggested) is far more unlikely than if Jackqueline's family didn't consider Vegas their home.

    I think Andy is still the primary decision maker at Bravo. He is who has changed Bravo and made it competitively relevant. Although impossible to know what Andy was thinking, by the reunion, part 2, I got the feeling that Teresa began to act beaten down, a bit less combative with the other women and more contrite towards Andy (IMO) by using the word, "love".

    My impression is that Teresa didn't expect to be put in the position to explain her legal ongoings, although, had Andy not perused that line of questioning, and the other matters where Teresa was openly up to no good or knowingly lying, Andy would certainly have been criticized for solf-balling her. And, again, Teresa forcing Bravo's participation in her bankruptcy activity by misleading the court couldn't have gained her any sympathy from Bravo ... thus, Andy asked the same 'bankruptcy fraud' question three times before letting up. Twice can corner someone in a lie, but three times? (He had to have been annoyed that she kept up the deception.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewok View Post
    So true!! Of course I'm completely for gay rights and I totally get what he was trying to say, but seriously Andy, get off it already!! Like you said he already attacked Theresa in the other reunion about something Juicy said. Also, he attacked Theresa in this reunion for something pseudo anti-Semitic that she said but I honestly don't think she meant anything by it, although it did sound pretty bad when he quoted her. She seems to just ramble without thinking sometimes.

    I completely agree that Andy was not being a fair moderator in this reunion at all. He was completely preoccupied with his own agenda. He could have saved that discussion for something else...maybe Watch What Happens Live or his blog...or whatever. And what gets me is how he is so quick to point out anything even remotely offensive to homosexuals or Jewish people and yet the premise of RHONJ is basically to poke fun at Italian Americans!! Also, I feel like they were kind of poking fun at Catholics this season too. Sooo...basically Andy is being a total hypocrite.

    Having said that, I usually LOVE Andy and do usually think he's really funny.
    We're not being fair to Andy as moderator. Andy got all kinds of criticism when he DIDN'T confront the cast members for their statements and behavior -- including the statements and behavior of their kids and significant others. So now, when he DOES confront them, he gets criticized. He's in a lose - lose situation. From following his Tweets and whatever he says publically (like on WWHL), I believe that what he tries to do when questioning the cast members during the reunions is to ask the questions the VIEWERS are asking him to please ask. And I see viewers asking same questions all the time as I watch WWHL and follow Andy on Twitter. So it's not that he's just asking the questions for himself, he's also asking what he's being requested to ask.

    Specifically in regard to Teresa, yes it was 3 to one -- or 4 to 1 if you include Andy, and it would've been 5 to 1 if Jacqueline had been there. But Teresa deserved it because she was HORRID to pretty much everyone this season. The only one worse than Teresa was Juicy. So to me, she needed to answer for her (and Juicy's) bad and hurtful and deceitful behavior --- and there was A LOT of that to answer for! And by the way, there were some areas that were NOT even mentioned, that could've been -- one, for example, is that there are still some very huge rumors going around about Juicy cheating on Teresa and even an unanswered question about a possible illigetimate child. And what about the big fight at the bar on their vacation. But no mention of all that. So we have to give Andy some credit for using his discretion and not going into areas that could've been the most damaging.
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    She might have stripper friends. I guess they per capita do not have more strip joints but it probably is more glamorized. The Palomino club and there is probably a naked show. I take carenot to say anything that could unintentionally be construed as hurtful. Nobody likes emotional pain.
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    Tre could deserve to be divorced. Nobodydeserves to be cheated on.
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    I am going to say that these ladies ganged up on Tre, because they did. It was done to keep the questioning off the rest of them and the secrets they are trying to hide. Why did Andy not go into the reason Carolines husband is lying about his address and why he was fired from his job? Why Caroline seems to not have real relationships with her siblings and why she is now not talking to three of them. How come Carolines husband appears to be spending more time at his apartment than with her?

    Why are there no questions on Melissa and her husband the slum lord? Why did they not question how they are living in home they have a construction loan only on? How come Andy doesn't browbeat Melissa on her hubbys less than stellar behavior like he does Tre on her hubbys.

    I mean really I guess he only went after Tre because she is the only interesting one on the show to start with.
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    Re: The Real Housewives of New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard View Post
    She might have stripper friends. I guess they per capita do not have more strip joints but it probably is more glamorized. The Palomino club and there is probably a naked show. I take carenot to say anything that could unintentionally be construed as hurtful. Nobody likes emotional pain.
    it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would have had stripper friends when she lived in Vegas, but I don't understand why you would assume that she does. There are millions of women who have lived and worked in Las Vegas without having once taken off their clothes or had sex for money.

    I have a few friends who live in the Vegas area. Any one of them would be offended if I assumed they had 'stripper friends' just because of they city where they live

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    Re: The Real Housewives of New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by ryansmommy
    Although I just read (above) an interesting theory as to why Jacqueline co-signed Ashlee's second car loan and Chris did not, I think a more realisitic probablility would be Jacqueline having a legal relationship with Ashlee and Chris does not.
    In no way would that affect the granting of a car loan. Anyone with good credit is an acceptable co-signer. Having a blood relative cosign isn't an advantage and step-parents frequently sign for their step-kids.

    Inasmuch as he had filed for bankruptcy the year prior, I really doubt that he was an acceptable co-signer on the loan.

    ETA: After reading Shay's post above, I am wondering if Bravo didn't script the new car for Ashlee as well as guarantee the loan.
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