The Real Housewives of New Jersey

[AngloAm]

Personally, I think there's a big difference between drugs, prostitution, and kidnapping and going bankrupt. This new lawsuit, I'm going to hold off judgment until it all plays out. I have a hard time believing this happened without Joe's partner knowing anything about it.

I agree, Danielle committed (or copped to) crimes of violence, not bloodless fraud. She held a person to ransom with threats of extreme bodily harm or murder, she facilitated drugs trafficking. (I don't count her escorting as a crime of violence to anyone but herself, and that not necessarily.) Those are all Very Bad Things. For which she was sentenced and served her time. Since then I've not seen her get so much as a traffic ticket (even when flying all around Franlin Lakes embarrassing her daughters on her way to parties she wasn't even invited to).

But on the other hand (my favourite phrase!) she did it while younger and lost in the world. And the person she kidnapped (IIRC) wasn't an innocent bystander but also involved in trafficking drugs.

If these allegations are true, Juicy Joe and Tess of the Stone Temple did their dirty work quite compos mentis, as adults with three (or four) little ones, whose future they endangered as much as (more?) than Danielle endangered her children. If true, they cold-bloodedly swindled their friends and partners, as well as the great shopping public.

Danielle's two won't have to downsize because of Danielle's wrong-doing. The four little Giudicette might just have to.

And the other difference is that Tess is incredibly judgemental and superior-acting. Her cookbook is shot through with cheap one-liners attacking Danielle. Even before her big break with Danielle, she was snide and dismissive. Personally I find Tess only one rung below Danielle on the Ladder of Awfulness.

And I still don't think Joey G is friend to the gays everywhere despite her incoherent averring that he is.

[AngloAm]

Right. And Danielle's crimes put other people's actual lives in danger..... There's no defending Joe's actions, but I hope for the sake of their four daughters that they get it together and move on with their lives, rebuilding a healthier financial situation. Remember that there are four little girls involved here. I also don't know how much Teresa knew about the financial situation, and I doubt she knew about this until after the fact. She just doesn't seem the type to pay attention or ask questions when her husband says "I've got it covered."

Sometimes smart people play dumb. Glad that the four little girls weren't in the Quattroporte when Joe got his DUI.

[Poppy Fields]

I agree, Danielle committed (or copped to) crimes of violence, not bloodless fraud. She held a person to ransom with threats of extreme bodily harm or murder, she facilitated drugs trafficking. (I don't count her escorting as a crime of violence to anyone but herself, and that not necessarily.) Those are all Very Bad Things. For which she was sentenced and served her time. Since then I've not seen her get so much as a traffic ticket (even when flying all around Franlin Lakes embarrassing her daughters on her way to parties she wasn't even invited to)..

Danielle pleaded guilty to one count of extortion, only, and did not receive a pristion sentence - she receivecd 5 years probation. Joe and Tess might not be so lucky.

[AngloAm]

Thanks for clarifying that - extortion is kinda like fraud with force.

[Poppy Fields]

Thanks for clarifying that - extortion is kinda like fraud with force.

More like theft by threat.

[AngloAm]

It's something alliterative at any rate!

[buttahfly]

why not? it's a legitimate portion of the entertainment industry. i'm a woman and i would loooooove to own a strip club.

None of them, with the exception of the charitable Dina, have done anything particularly admirable for all their time and money. As a woman, I'm offended that Caroline would encourage her young son to promote the stripping industry.

[ubidiah]

It's seedy and exploitative.

[PA Snow Bunny]

it's seedy and exploitative.

yes! 1000%!!!

[AngloAm]

I used to hang out at the DC all-male all-<excited> reviews!