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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityRealmer;3370352;
    wrong idea in my opinion. according to Jeff's daughter's interview, they ARE very much upset and offended by it and have every right to be. Whatever the situation was, their dad was a part of it and loved Gretchen there is no need to tarnish his memory.
    I believe that Jeff's children knew that Gretchen and their dad had a special relationship. Any person who has been married as many times as their dad had spoken to their children about their choices and that was obvious with his children. They accepted him and his choices to have a relationship with him. How many grown children would come to his home and stay with his companion? Many would have gone to a hotel, some at his expense. They took things for what they were worth and lived with it. Also, love has many aspects and until science makes it possible to look into someone's emotions and heart and define the emotion into a concept, no one can judge or define the idea of love.
    Let's just say that Jeff and Gretchen had come on the show and said, "Jeana, I'm really ill and I'm looking for a house so that this hot babe and I can live out my days happy. Gretchen needs her space and by the way, I pay her 25,000 a month to put up with me." So what?
    I still believe that everyone on this show has an ulterior motive and it's none of anyone's business, especially those who want to expose those motives. Frank and Lynne got on for their girls. That concept was so obvious. Lynn used the show for her jewelry line. Why don't the two loca girls (Vicki and Tamra) start that expose?
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    Didn't Tamara say something to the affect of her mom being her 'competition' with this face lift? competition for what? I just thought the word 'competiotion' was a strange word to use ...

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Quote Originally Posted by misslada;3372770;
    Didn't Tamara say something to the affect of her mom being her 'competition' with this face lift? competition for what? I just thought the word 'competiotion' was a strange word to use ...
    Yes, very true. I guess Tamara plans to start hitting the bars again with mom in tow. Simon can stay home and babysit.
    Television is an invention that permits you to be entertained in your living room by people you wouldn't have in your home.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    I've lurked here for years, since the before the original thread. I usually don't have anything to add. I have to say, this board has been THE most considerate of Jeff's family. You all are to be commended.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    I always put my self in their place before I make a comment. Stepping back and assessing the situation is important.
    Television is an invention that permits you to be entertained in your living room by people you wouldn't have in your home.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Quote Originally Posted by misslada;3372770;
    Didn't Tamara say something to the affect of her mom being her 'competition' with this face lift? competition for what? I just thought the word 'competiotion' was a strange word to use ...
    It runs in the family - remember her cousin and the joke she made with Ryan about a tatoo of a mouse on her upper thigh? Ryan couldn't see the mouse so she said that the .... must have gotten it.

    Tee hee.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityRealmer;3370066;
    That is one of the biggest mysteries of the OC---- how on EARTH did Brianna turn out to be such a lovely person with Vicki as a mother?? Ryan's apple didn't fall too far from the tree, but Brianna is a gem.
    Brianna held it deep inside for years, secretly telling herself while growing up that she would never turn out to be like her mom. Brianna fulfilled that promise to herself.

    Many kids, after being raised by dysfunctional or overly controlling parents such as Vicki, will vow to live their lives in exact contrast to what they witnessed and experienced in their parents.
    "Never Give Up" ~~~Winston Churchill

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Quote Originally Posted by Oompaloopa;3373682;
    Brianna held it deep inside for years, secretly telling herself while growing up that she would never turn out to be like her mom. Brianna fulfilled that promise to herself.

    Many kids, after being raised by dysfunctional or overly controlling parents such as Vicki, will vow to live their lives in exact contrast to what they witnessed and experienced in their parents.
    You are absolutely right (I know from personal experience) and I could not have said it better.

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    Re: The Real Housewives of Orange County

    Real Housewives‘ Gretchen Denies Cheating on Late Fiancé
    March 9, 2009

    Gretchen Rossi, one of the stars of The Real Housewives of Orange County’s season 4, says she was loyal to her late fiancé Jeff Beitzel, who lost his battle with cancer following the show’s taping.

    On Bravo’s recent reunion show, her Housewives costar Tamra Barney accused Gretchen of cheating on Beitzel with a man named Jay, who once threatened to “out” Gretchen.

    Web reports have identified that man as Jay Photoglou.

    Gretchen, 31, tells PEOPLE she did go on “a couple of dates” with Photoglou before she started seeing her late fiancé, “but it really wasn’t a romantic, serious relationship,” she says.

    While Rossi was engaged to Beitzel, [Photoglou] became a close friend and “confidante.” But when he wanted to take things further, she says, “I was not even going to consider that with him.”

    After Beitzel died in September, Rossi and Photoglou continued hanging out, she says, often running into each other at parties because they share many of the same friends.

    It was during that time, she believes he took her memory card out of her camera, which, she says, accounts for the photos of them that have popped up on the Web.

    “I have not taken my ring off one day since Jeff passed away,” Rossi says. “[But Photoglou] claims the proof [that we were dating while I was engaged] is the fact that I’m wearing my engagement ring.”

    Photoglou could not be reached for comment.

    “Every single time he wanted to have something more and I would deny him, he would say, ‘I’m just going to call the press and tell them we have a relationship,’” Rossi says. “He has never been my boyfriend.”

    Then why did Rossi call him her boyfriend during a 911 call published by Radaronline.com? “Because he was standing right in front of me,” she tells PEOPLE. “I was afraid that he was going to be upset that I was giving dispatch any information about him — whether it was his real name, whether or not he was my boyfriend.”

    During the call, Photoglou claims Rossi had attempted suicide with sleeping pills. But Rossi is heard in the background saying, “I did not try to commit suicide at all.”

    In fact, Rossi then got on the phone and told the dispatcher, “He tried to break into my house and I finally opened the door. He decided to call 911 … He’s been ringing the door bell for the last 25 minutes.”

    Rossi has now taken action so that she won’t hear from Photoglou again, filing a temporary restraining order against him on Friday at the Newport Beach Court House.

    “I look forward to the truth being played out in court,” Photoglou told RadarOnline.com. “It’s an obvious attempt by Gretchen to silence me, as I’ve only spoken the truth about our relationship.”
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    Thanks for the link and article lobeck! I am so glad that Gretchen took out a Restraining Order on that creep. His desire to have the truth 'play out in court' combined with his need for attention and validation screams desperation and in someone like this, that's scary. He's obviously got T and her troll patrol helping him get the word out and one can only wonder what they hope to gain in their despicable vendetta.

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