Tamra Barney - Season 3

[PugMum]

While I do not work for an airline, I have worked at an airport for a very long time, and this is just not true. Most of the people I have met, do indeed have college degrees whether it be in travel/tourism, marketing etc... The son of a friend of mine will be graduating in June from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and he works part-time at an airport washing the planes.

I have worked IN the airline industry for a very long time and it IS true.

Boy oh boy, Seanp! Silly me, I thought you were Ryan Vieth! Tell me, do these people just fall into these jobs with no training? Are these starting salaries or ending salaries?

Tell me, can you go from "picking parts for peanuts " to Air Traffic Controller in one easy step? Just wonderin'

These jobs do require on the job training. Some require an AA.

[RealLee]

I have worked IN the airline industry for a very long time and it IS true.

I am pretty sure she wasn't disputing the fact that most people working for airlines don't have college degrees. Rather, it's just not true that most people working there, without college degrees, are making over 6 figures.

[PugMum]

Does education mean ignorance? There are a lot of people with degrees that are unemployed. There are a lot of people without college degrees that have NEVER been unemployed and they have steady year after year income. And many even make in the 100k range.
Been to the airport lately? 99% of the airline employees (not counting pilots) are not college educated. YEP! The ones that work to put you 40,000 feet in the air just have a HS education. Maybe even just their GED. Oh and most are well traveled and make around 75k a year.

I am pretty sure she wasn't disputing the fact that most people working for airlines don't have college degrees. Rather, it's just not true that most people working there, without college degrees, are making over 6 figures.

I wasn't aware that I said they make over 6 figures. I thought 75k was only five figures. my bad.

Either way, This is something that Ryan or any of the RHoOC kids can do without going to college.

[withinterest]

Yawn. I don't know about you but I am now pretty board with this topic. We can all find exceptions.

Can we agree that your value as a person is not any more, or any less, based upon how much you do or don't earn, how much wealth you or your family have or don't have, how much education you have or have not attained? And finally, can we agree that a woman's worth is not measured by her cup size.

If we can agree then Sean/Ryan/Simon can get back to talking about Tamra's silicon breasts.

Carry on!

[RealLee]

Here are 25 of the top-paying jobs that don't require a four-year degree and their average salaries, based on data from the BLS and CBSalary.com.

1. Air traffic controller: $102,030
2. Funeral director: $79,517
3. Operations manager: $77,839
4. Industrial production manager: $73,000
5. Transportation manager: $72,662
6. Storage and distribution manager: $69,898
7. Computer technical support specialist: $67,689
8. Gaming manager: $64,880
9. First-line supervisor/manager of police and detective: $64,430
10. Nuclear power reactor operator: $64,090
11. Computer specialist: $59,480
12. First-line, non-retail supervisors/manager: $59,300
13. Nuclear technician: $59,200
14. First-line supervisor/manager of fire fighting and prevention worker: 8,920
15. Real estate broker: $58,720
16. Elevator installer and repairer: $58,710
17. Sales representative, wholesale and manufacturing, technical and Scientific products.:$58,580
18. Dental hygienist: $59,790
19. Radiation therapist: $57,700
20. Nuclear medicine technologist: $56,450
21. Power plant distributor and dispatcher: $57,330
22. Fashion designer: $55,840
23. Ship engineer: $54,950
24. Detective and criminal investigator: $53,990
25. Commercial pilot: $53,870

With the exception of maybe the top 5, it would be pretty difficult to support a family of 4 on some of those salaries. Especially knowing that is the highest level they will achieve. Not to mention, in general those jobs may not require a degree, but some some companies they may. Plus, even though a degree may not always be required, it certainly helps. If two applicants are equal in every other way and one has the degree, that's probably going to give that person the edge.

[SindyLew]

OK, let's just end this with the REAL deal. To be successful, you HAVE to have desire and dedication. I think we can all agree that RYAN is not there at this time. Let's put Michael & Ashley in there too.

At least Shane has passion for what he's doing and he wants to make it in the big leagues. I think he understands that Daddy/Granddaddy/Uncle can't buy him his way in. However, he's still a jerk.

[bewty]

I have worked IN the airline industry for a very long time and it IS true.



These jobs do require on the job training. Some require an AA.

Just my 2 cents before we move on from here. We're going to need to agree to disagree here because you first said

99% of the airline employees (not counting pilots) are not college educated

and that is what I was objecting to because maybe a large number(NOT 99%)
have only a high school diploma, the others are college educated and yes that includes an associates degree.

[ms scarlett]

Yawn. I don't know about you but I am now pretty board with this topic. We can all find exceptions.

Can we agree that your value as a person is not any more, or any less, based upon how much you do or don't earn, how much wealth you or your family have or don't have, how much education you have or have not attained? And finally, can we agree that a woman's worth is not measured by her cup size.

If we can agree then Sean/Ryan/Simon can get back to talking about Tamra's silicon breasts.

Carry on!

Thank you....glad someone else recognized the presence here of Sean/Ryan/Simon here to defend TT's assets..

[withinterest]

Thank you....glad someone else recognized the presence here of Sean/Ryan/Simon here to defend TT's assets..

Lol. We are onto them.

I am sorry, but I am hard pressed to find a straight man in my life that would visit and contribute to a discussion thread on this show. I might find my husband reading an ESPN site, but never here. No no.

[RealLee]

At least Shane has passion for what he's doing and he wants to make it in the big leagues. I think he understands that Daddy/Granddaddy/Uncle can't buy him his way in. However, he's still a jerk.

Very true, at least he does have the drive and probably the discipline to try and succeed there. In just that one career and nothing else. I wonder what will happen if he doesn't make it, since making it is such a longshot? He was raised with a one track goal in life, with nothing else to fall back on. Can you just imagine him having to work a real job? I can't see him making it as a parts picker. LOL!

It just baffles me as to how all the people on this show have raised their children (with a couple of exceptions) to not value education. My son is only 3 years old, and his college fund is growing and will be fully funded before he's out of high school. Kids often do what is expected of them, and from the very beginning we've always and will always speak of college as something that is a given, just like with elementary and high school. I see some of these parents asking their 18 year old, seemingly for the first time, "so do you think you'll go to college?" Why would they not talk it up and encourage a good education from earlier on? These kids are raised to believe they don't need education because mommy and daddy will support them. Then they turn 18 and eventually daddy can't afford to keep up with the lifestyle the spoiled brats have becomed accustomed.