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    My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elysive
    ......... I think it might be reading too much into such slips of keys. Whether we choose to toss around terms such as faghag or queer, I think in general we're all in good company and have good intentions (like few straight people would jump on another straight person for the same comment about their sexuality, just because de facto it's not seen as an attempt to oppress with words). Minority communities are constantly put on the defensive about stuff like this and it leads to in-fighting that's even more divisive and detrimental to social and political reform........."

    I'll agree with you there. For me, I don't need an English or word usage lesson that wasn't asked for either. I'm not hip, I don't try to be and I don't look for people who are so I can use certain words. I'll leave that to others.

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    Maveno,

    I'm very sorry for your brother's experience and any negative ones you also had. (You're brother leaving was a big one in itself).

    I don't want to judge or criticize you. I just wanted to say that you shouldn't have to explain yourself here, unless it's something that you want to share.

    FORT is supposed to be a place for us to share, discuss reality TV, and as you mentioned, not getting "picked apart".

    Be happy and please feel free to continue to post here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxviewer
    My apologies.
    I accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldee
    Maveno,

    I'm very sorry for your brother's experience and any negative ones you also had. (You're brother leaving was a big one in itself).

    I don't want to judge or criticize you. I just wanted to say that you shouldn't have to explain yourself here, unless it's something that you want to share.

    FORT is supposed to be a place for us to share, discuss reality TV, and as you mentioned, not getting "picked apart".

    Be happy and please feel free to continue to post here.

    Thanks eldee.. I appreciate your post very much.

    I wanted to reply to pdx...it's all done and we can continue as a happy family now. ::black cloud over the threads lifts::


    Thanks again... now on with hating the Montana Clowns!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maveno
    I wanted to reply to pdx...it's all done and we can continue as a happy family now. ::black cloud over the threads lifts::
    Ok!

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    Looky here, another "pro-family" group has a suggestion for how to change Queer Eye for Straight Guy. While the Montana Family Coalition would prefer to eradicate gay people by killing them off with AIDS, a recent commentary on Straight Talk Radio, a new syndicated offering on Christian radio stations, advocates eradicating gay people by eradicating gayness.

    From WorldNetDaily.com:
    A ministry combating the homosexual agenda has begun producing daily radio commentaries entitled "Straight Talk Radio."

    Stephen Bennett, an ex-homosexual and head of Stephen Bennett Ministries, hopes to educate listeners about the goals of the homosexual community through the one-minute commentaries.

    Yesterday's commentary, entitled "Christian Eye for the Queer Guy," was a discussion of Bravo TV's program "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy."

    Says Bennett in his audio piece: "The show's message to America is quite clear: We need gay men to teach straight men how to be real men." He challenges the cable network to create a show where Christian men show a homosexual man how he can "become a new man in Christ as in 2 Corinithians 5:17 proclaiming through the power of Jesus Christ homosexuals can change."
    If you're unfamiliar with the ex-gay movement, you may not want to read further. Stretching back more than 50 years, the movement's "therapies" have included everything from the usual fire-and-brimstone scare tactics, to the use of nausea-inducing drugs and gay porn to try to form a mental link between queers and wanting to vomit, to even more elaborate setups with electronic genital hookups that provide pleasure when naked girls are shown and torture when naked guys are shown, to even more horrificly crude experimentations with shock therapy that sometimes involved car batteries. Over the last decade, the movement has gained particular popularity, with services being provided by a growing number of conservative churches and advocated by the nation's top conservative moralizers and right-wing radio talkers. There are many, many instances of the movement's "ex-gay" leading lights either being caught cruising in gay bars, backrooms and bathhouses, or leaving on their own volition and denouncing the movement. For example, both co-founders of the nation's (and world's) largest ex-gay group, Exodus, and the leader of its largest chapter have all left the movement and denounced it. The movement's most well-known leader, a man who even appeared on the cover of Newsweek years ago, has been caught in a gay bar -- twice. Recently, the movement has quietly shifted away from trying to turn gays straight, something that doesn't really happen (though some people can realize their bisexuality and focus on the opposite sex), to just trying to get gay people to become abstinent. The more tortuous therapies have been largely abandoned, though the use of nausea-inducing drugs is still an occasional feature. Clients are predominantly young adults who are forced into the movement after coming out to their fundamentalist parents.

    You can listen to this lovely Straight Talk Radio segment yourself in RealMedia.

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    I also hear there was a recent "study" released that claimed these techniques and Christian "counseling" was 80% effective of "curing" gay men.

    *pauses to vomit*

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    Fortunately, every major medical and psychological association has come out in opposition to this "therapy," warning about the psychological damage (including cases of depression and suicide) as well as its overall ineffectiveness.

    It's interesting to note that the bulk of these studies that anti-gay groups circulate originate from one man who has been expelled from the APA and other psychiatric associations for patterns of misrepresenting other people's studies, altering evidence, using highly flawed research methodologies, etc.

    What kind of person becomes a career homophobe? It's just breathtaking that people are not just casually homophobic, but devote their entire life's work to bigotry. How can that feel rewarding?

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