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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    I love how the judges criticize one designer's lack of taste -- then give the top prize to a designer whose outfit makes it look like the model literally rolled out of bed wrapped in the sheets she slept in.
    I was just about to post that I guess I make a couture dress everytime I wrap my sheet around me (or maybe a patch-work quilt is more "stylish").... & then I read your post

    Right on!
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    Here are some more screen caps of the Paris gowns - in Paris and in NYC.

    Uli's gown:



    Michael's gown (in blue) and Kayne's gown on his Paris model:



    Laura's gown with her Paris model:



    I'm gonna put more in Kayne's and Jeffrey's threads... This is a lotta pictures. Lol.

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    Santino has just posted this bulletin on his myspace... yikes -i hope he doesn't influence people to vote for that foolish jeffrey:


    Hey Friends,
    I'll keep trying to post the link.....

    So Bravo's Project Runway 3 is having a Fan favorite contest.....
    Winner get $10,000....
    Vote up to 20 times...
    Vote for my friend Jeffrey,
    If you've been swayed by the editing of this complex man,
    DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!
    Jeff's the real deal and I'm in 100% support of him.
    Show Jeffrey some love!
    Click the link below:
    Much Love,
    SANTINO

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    I thought Jeffrey's dress was in fact nothing short of brilliant. For the first time ever I read the board before I got to watch the show since I was not home when it aired. I was experimenting with what it was like to read about it first. I was expecting a hideous monstrosity.
    Instead I was blown away with its' ingenousness
    It's a highly intellectual piece, and highly emotional at the same time (hard to pull off.)
    It has the insouciance of Lacroix, the rigor of YSL, the reckessness of McQueen and yet is totally original and forward-thinking. Now what I mean by that is couture ideas are the big "what ifs" that then trickle down and inspire lesser designers. This was a tour-de-force because
    a. the silhouette-was breathtaking
    b. the construction-so intricate. Draped and patched at the same time! The flow of the back was superb
    c. yes the audacious color, and the juxtaposed the plaids together were actually pulled off.
    d. then the deconstruction of the idea "gown"
    When a designer can present something that inspiring and inspired in so short a time, now that is amazing. I am a professional successful NY designer (art jewelry) with an MFA in Painting and I teach Fashion Design.
    I'm not easy to impress, I can assure you. I am impressed. I think it's the best design in the history of PR and actually stands up to master couturiers.

    Did you know "happy, joyous and free" is a slogan in the AA program? He said that inspired him too right before he mentioned the Statue of Liberty. He will and should win PR. This is a show about talent, not personality.

    I do love Michael. He's got it all. But Jeffrey is a genius. And it's Michael's bad luck to be on season 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliana View Post
    It has the insouciance of Lacroix, the rigor of YSL, the reckessness of McQueen and yet is totally original and forward-thinking. Now what I mean by that is couture ideas are the big "what ifs" that then trickle down and inspire lesser designers. This was a tour-de-force bad.
    But it is more like what they were doing 10 years ago. Forward-thinking?
    Vivieene Westwood - early 90's.

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    The first thing i thought when I saw Jeff's dress was not Vivienne Westwood Anglomania dresses (which was nothing like this other than being tartan)- I thought it reminded me of one of Santino's finale dresses in Plaid.
    Seriously check Santino's collection on the Bravo site from the finale- two dresses are draped very similar to this one- they are both shorter and different fabrics but the the top and especially the "bodice" (if you can call a bunch of wadded fabric below the chest a bodice) are very similar. Very similar silhouettes.

    When i checked these out I flashed on the episode when Tim went to Santino's studio and was blown away by his creations- saying something like "why didn't you show us these during the show?"

    At the time I thought, wow Santino had some help with this stuff. And now with Jeff being a good friend and all.......well you know......

    I'm just saying is all.........
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    And finally, Vivienne Westwood has been more "Punk" influenced (once again tartan) than "Goth". Especially when you figure she was married to Malcolm Mclauren & dressed the Sex Pistols.

    Zips, rips, chains, bondage, porn and slogans all featured to give punk a look that would have a revolutionary impact on high fashion still felt to this day.

    Goth is a subculture of Punk, Styles of dress within the Goth subculture range from death rock, post-punk, Victorian, androgynous, some Renaissance style clothes, or combinations of the above, most often with black attire, makeup and hair. Its imagery and cultural proclivities indicate influences from nineteenth century Gothic literature, mainly through horror movies.

    In summary all Goth is Punk but not all Punk is Goth.

    I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir but if Michael Kors doesn't know the difference, I figure there might be others who are in the dark as well.
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    Yep, Jeffrey's rock or punk influenced - I wouldn't call him goth.

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    Good point about those designers works from 10-20 years ago, SophieMae. And, actually those are the collections I consider more important and well-known.

    Runway-very interesting point about Santino getting help. Hell, his work was actually sewn well to boot!

    Aside from Jeffrey's personal clothing, I am hard-pressed now to see him as punk or goth. The first dress was very Japanes avante-garde (the apartment) and the garbage piece was nothing short of Surrealist trompe-l'oiel( Like Schiapparelli, I daresay)

    He is truly rising in my estimation as time goes on.

    BTW concerning designers and personality.
    Chanel-- traitor and user GUILTY
    YSL-- withdrawn and maybe even cold, neurotic GUILTY
    Galliano, McQueen--immature showboats. GUILTY

    Not all are charmers like Kors,Jacobs,Karan, Wang, etc.

    You get the idea.

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    True, it's not a personality contest. Still, Bravo has to keep in mind that the winner will be representing Project Runway and Bravo (and NBC which owns Bravo, right?). It amounts to a certain amount of PR (public relations) as well.

    An interesting side note: Heidi reportedly said to Kathy Griffin at the Emmy party: "I hope whoever wins this year will actually become a designer". Ha.

    But for at least the following year, the winner does represent the show and the show wants good press.

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