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    THEY ARE ON WELFARE; it simply amazes me that people wonder about this!

    Call it disability, whatever; the government is supporting these people (that's you and me; Mr. and Ms. Taxpayer) in the style to which they've become accustomed.

    Either drive-thrus now accept the EBT card (nothing would surprise me these days. I know convenience food stores do) or they convert their entitlements to cash somehow. When you see people with no visible means of support eating $200 worth of expensive fast food in one day, you know SOMEBODY is paying for it... And, yes, there's plenty of money left over, apparently, for cigarettes, cars, gas, video equipment, smart phones, etc., etc., etc. Even pedi/manis and massages. Must be nice!
    Some states have recently instituted restrictions on where welfare debit cards can be used. No more withdrawing cash in liquor stores, casinos, or adult entertainment venues. And California has even restricted use of the welfare cards to be used to pay for cruises!!!

    Working people save THEIR OWN MONEY for years to pay for things that some welfare recipients just plop down OUR money to purchase. I know that's not true of all of them, but it's just mind boggling.

    This is from an online article on a website for Travel Agents:
    "After an investigative story ran in the Los Angeles Times showing state-issued welfare debit cards had been used at casinos across the United States and on cruise ships to withdraw millions of dollars of benefits at vacation spots, the state of California pulled the plug on such purchases Monday afternoon.

    California's Department of Social Services discovered that more than $69 million targeted at helping the needy pay their rent and clothe their children was accessed by debit card use in 49 other states, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam between January 2007 and May 2010.

    The Times' story said the department's database showed $16,010 withdrawn from ATMs on 14 cruise ships sailing from such locales as Long Beach, CA and Miami along with such international cruise destinations as Brazil and China.

    Eight of the ships on which the cards were used sail primarily from Miami. In addition, more than $11 million was spent or withdrawn in Las Vegas, about $1 million of that at shops and casino hotels on or close to the strip; of that, $8,968 was accessed at the Tropicana and $7,995 at the Venetian and its Grand Canal Shoppes."
    Hubby and I just finished our monthly volunteer stint at a local food bank. It is a blessing to see that our local stores and restaurants and donating fresh produce, bread, milk, etc., to benefit people in need.

    But I noticed something interesting this morning. Most of the pre-packaged salad mixes and produce we were handing out today were organic. We (and I suspect many others who try to shop wisely) do not buy organic produce because it costs more. So while we are being careful in our spending, the stores have all the leftover expensive veggies and salad mixes left over, and they give it away. They were even giving away almond milk today!

    Each recipient at today's session received a shopping cart full of fresh fruit, potatoes, tomatoes, zucchini, peppers, chopped lettuce, organic salad mixes, bottled water, cakes, bread, cookies, yogurt, milk . . . all for free. Healthy food IS available in many communities for those who are low income.
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    To qualify for Medicaid, you must "spend down." Not only can you not earn anything, you can't have assets (money) in the bank exceeding -- I think? -- $2,000. This is why many older people go ahead and "gift" their adult children their inheritance early; it's now called estate planning. That way, the nursing home is free.
    There is also a law protecting the surviving spouse. The couple's combined assets (for the spouse who has to live outside a nursing home) can't be over $108,000 this excludes a home and car. You can't "gift" to easy because Medicaid looks back years and will question any large withdrawals. We were told me dad should take out more than $200 at a time for spending money (he pays cash most of the time). Spending down is you get a certain amount in SS a month, when you hit the cap for free Medicaid, anything over that goes to the nursing home, however the cap amount goes up when you have a surviving spouse, its somewhere like $2000 a month combined.

    We did put everything not only in my dad's name but in a trust.
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    Each recipient at today's session received a shopping cart full of fresh fruit, potatoes, tomatoes, zucchini, peppers, chopped lettuce, organic salad mixes, bottled water, cakes, bread, cookies, yogurt, milk . . . all for free. Healthy food IS available in many communities for those who are low income.
    IN my area we have Aldi and they sell more fruits and veg than ever before. They have organics and gluten free too. Its not terribly expensive and its good. I like bagged lettuce. Jewel grocery store has it anywhere from $2.50 to $3.99. At Aldi I can get a bag of butter lettuce, spinach or a mix for under $2.

    I do see many people stocking up on healthy foods who look like they could easily shop at a high end store. Then I see people who don't look like they can't or who are quite heavy and I see an awful lot of junky foods. Not always, but often enough. People need to make the effort too. I sometimes wonder how many are enablers.

    And don't think I am not buying treats! My husband needs his pudding on the weekend, but the guy weighs 180 and is nearly 6 feet!
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    The discussion about participants being on public assistance has gone WAY into "beating a dead horse" territory, but we'll let it go for another week, because we're ALL going to need it for this winner:
    800lb Steven Assanti is caught on camera harassing a nurse | Daily Mail Online

    I'm going to say now that there is NO WAY this guy will be successful. He's a mooching jackass who will bring resistance to Dr. Now's rules to a new level. Prepare a pile of (hopefully soft) things to throw at your TV.
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    The discussion about participants being on public assistance has gone WAY into "beating a dead horse" territory, but we'll let it go for another week, because we're ALL going to need it for this winner:
    800lb Steven Assanti is caught on camera harassing a nurse | Daily Mail Online

    I'm going to say now that there is NO WAY this guy will be successful. He's a mooching jackass who will bring resistance to Dr. Now's rules to a new level. Prepare a pile of (hopefully soft) things to throw at your TV.
    While I do not watch this show ... I did just watch that video and what a COMPLETE JERK.
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    One of the phrases I hate (and mostly it's because many posters don't actually use it in the right context) is "jumped the shark." This time, it seems totally applicable: the casting this season feels like they're jumping the shark. All for ratings stunt casting. Like, "Look at this total jerk who's irredeemable. Can Dr. Now save him? Tune in to find out!" The answer is NO, Dr. Now can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved and this guy (and several others this season) doesn't want to be saved.....at least not enough to actually DO something about it. It's like the ratings started to flag and the producers thought they needed to do something to bring viewers back.

    I used to enjoy watching this show because often the person would lose weight and get their life back. Maybe they were still obese at the end of the episode, but they were on their way - there's only so much weight you can lose in a year and these people do start out at least 600 lbs. This season, in particular, it seems like they've picked people who can barely get it together to be cleared for WLS in a year. Frankly, most of them are incredibly unlikable to boot.

    The first season of this show followed the participants for years - maybe 7 - and, although I understand why they can't do that now, that format was much more satisfying. When someone is upwards 450+ lbs overweight, it takes a long time for them to lose it. This season, it seems a year is hardly long enough to get them to the point where they're even ready to THINK about losing weight. For me, it make the show less appealing.
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    I noticed that too, about this season. Many of them are not at all sympathetic characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkin View Post
    I noticed that too, about this season. Many of them are not at all sympathetic characters.
    Exactly! I mean, we've always had a bit of "Dr. Now just doesn't understand what I'm going through" or "I have to cheat sometimes and eat what I want in order to do this." AND berating family members, but the people this season are beyond the pale. Seriously, how on EARTH can you gain over 150 lbs and not a) totally know it and b) be shocked!? I know when I've gained FIVE pounds!

    It's like they're casting people just to shock us. I'd rather see someone who's not quite so huge who actually does what the doctor tells them to do and who loses weight and starts to get their life back. That's what the show was in the beginning, even though almost all of them have stumbles and set backs.
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    Remember the first episode? The likable, sympathetic twin sisters. They gave us such high hopes for this season! How cruel of TLC...
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    I participate on another reality board, and it has gone crazy over James K of My 600-Pound Life. There are nearly 1,800 posts in JUST his thread. None of them are sympathetic.
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