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    Being passionate about being a survivalist does not necessaries translate in to being one and living the lifestyle. Part of being able to survive is to be able to physically survive the environment and to be able to make tools and shelter.
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    Episode 3 - The Talons of Fear - 07/02/15

    Oh, wow, so sorry to see Joe go just because he lost he Ferro stick (lighter), I was so sure he would be one of the last ones standing. He had a great attitude and great skill set.

    Too bad Wayne couldn't see to find a good place to build a shelter and has problems with the bears. Really cool to see the rescue team go in. I do wonder why they lost contact with Wayne after he called them in?

    6 men left.

    4 tapped out in as many days, will this experiment last longer than 10 days?
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    At the start of Day 4 there were 8 men left.

    Joe was flown out Day 4 around 3:45 pm.

    Wayne was walked out Day 5 at 3:47 am.

    Almost 1 man per day so far with 6 men left.

    Brant I think might be next as he doesn't seem to be doing well with the isolation.
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    One more reason that I actually have faith in this reality show. Dropping out quickly. I know I would have been long gone.

    Friends watching with us asked why there were no women. Anybody have any theories?

    I have one that I did not bring up as we were watching. If I were the producer, and I knew of the very real threat of predators, I would fear that there is no way to micro-manage the schedule of female menses - a very dangerous issue in the wild. I haven't watched Naked and Afraid, where women do participate. But I think they could be scheduled appropriately. Theirs is a fixed time period versus a last-one-standing scenario. I seem to recall this might have been an issue with the Grizzly Man (?) who was mauled to death along with his girlfriend who surprised him with a visit.

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    [url]http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/menstruation_data.html[url]

    On the evening of August 13, 1967, two women were attacked and killed by grizzly bears (Ursus arctos horribilis) in separate incidents within Glacier National Park (GNP). Following these incidents, there was speculation that due to odors associated with menstruation, women may be more prone to attack by bears than are men (Rogers et al. 1991).

    The objective of this paper is to present the data available on this subject so that women can make an informed choice when deciding whether or not to hike and/or camp in bear country during their menstrual period.


    Polar Bears

    In a study designed to test the hypothesis that bears are attracted to the odors of menstruation, Cushing (1983) reported that when presented with a series of different odors (including seal scents, other food scents, non menstrual human blood, and used tampons), four captive polar bears (Ursus maritimus) elicited a strong behavioral response only to seal scents and menstrual odors (used tampons).

    Cushing (1983) also reported that free-ranging polar bears detected and consumed food scent samples and used tampons, but ignored non menstrual human blood and unused tampons. This suggests that polar bears are attracted to odors associated with menstrual blood.


    Grizzly Bears

    Herrero (1985) analyzed the circumstances of hundreds of grizzly bear attacks on humans, including the attacks on the two women in GNP, and concluded that there was no evidence linking menstruation to any of the attacks. The responses of grizzly bears to menstrual odors has not been studied experimentally.


    Black Bears

    Rogers et al. (1991) recorded the responses of 26 free-ranging black bears (Ursus americanus) to used tampons from 26 women and the responses of 20 free ranging black bears to four menstruating women at different days of their flow.

    Menstrual odors were essentially ignored by black bears of all sex and age classes. In an extensive review of black bear attacks across North America, no instances of black bears attacking or being attracted to menstruating women was found (Cramond 1981, Herrero 1985, Rogers et al. 1991).




    Yellowstone National Park Bear-Caused Human Injury Statistics


    Over 62 million people visited Yellowstone National Park (YNP) during the 23 year period from 1980 through 2002. These visitors spent over 15.4 million use nights camping in developed area campgrounds and over 956,000 use nights camping in backcountry areas within the park. Although actual statistics are not available, many menstruating women undoubtedly visit, hike and/or camp within YNP each year.

    During the 1980-2002 time period, 32 people were injured by bears within YNP, an average of only 1.4 bear-inflicted human injuries per year (Gunther 2003).

    There was no evidence linking menstruation to any of these 32 bear attacks. Of these 32 injuries, 25 (78%) were men, and 7 (22%) were women.

    Of the 7 women injured by bears, most (57%, n=4) involved surprise, close encounters between bears and women that were hiking and were therefore probably unrelated to menstruation.


    In 3 (43%) incidents surprise encounters were not involved. Of these 3 incidents, 1 involved a female (non-menstruating) jogger in a developed area that was slowly approached then bitten by a grizzly bear, 1 (6%) involved a female Park Ranger moving an injured bear that had been hit by a car off of the road (thus was probably not related to menstruation), and 1 involved a woman (non-menstruating) in a tent in the backcountry.

    It is difficult to accurately compare the ratio of males to females that are injured by bears because the park does not keep records of visitor use of the park by gender. However, the injury data for YNP does not suggest that females are more likely to be attacked by bears than are males (Gunther and Hoekstra 1996).



    Precautions

    Although there is no evidence that grizzly and black bears are overly attracted to menstrual odors more than any other odor, certain precautions should be taken to reduce the risks of attack.

    The following precautions are recommended:

    1. Use pre-moistened, unscented cleaning towelettes.

    2. Use internal tampons instead of external pads.

    3. Do not bury tampons or pads (pack it in - pack it out). A bear may smell buried tampons or pads and dig them up. By providing bears a small food "reward", this action may attract bears to other menstruating women.

    4. Place all used tampons, pads, and towelettes in double zip-loc baggies and store them unavailable to bears, just as you would store food. This means hung at least 10 feet above the ground and 4 feet from the tree trunk.

    5. Tampons can be burned in a campfire, but remember that it takes a very hot fire and considerable time to completely burn them. Any charred remains must be removed from the fire pit and stored with your other garbage. Also, burning of any garbage is odorous and may attract bears to your campsite.

    6. Many feminine products are heavily scented. Use only unscented or lightly scented items. Cosmetics, perfumes, and deodorants are unnecessary and may act as an attractant to bears.


    7. Follow food storage regulations and recommendations so you can avoid attracting a bear into your camp with other odors. All odorous items that may attract bears, including food, cooking and food storage gear, toiletries, and garbage, must be kept secured from bears.
    If every female human or animal was attacked by bears every time they were menstruating there would not be any females of any kind left on the planet.
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    Very interesting, Bearcata. Thanks for the info.

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    Saw an article today about sharks attacking menstruating women. The article basically debunked this myth.
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    Episode 4 - Stalked - July 09, 2015 - 10:03-11:03PM ET

    Brant tapped out Day 6. It's pretty obvious that the biggest obstacle in this experience is the isolation and the harsh environment. I do think perhaps Brant was suffering dehydration from drinking brackish water and the high sodium content contributed to his dehydration and in turn the beginnings of hallucinations and a bit of paranoia. While Brant had loads of military training and knew how to survive in the wild with equipment he didn't claim to be an expert in bushcraft. At least he recognized he may have ingested bad water and that it was affecting him and he called medical.
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    Just got caught up on past epis.
    Josh, Chris, Wayne out due to animals, or fear of them.
    Joe, Brant out due to admittedly stupid mistakes.
    Mitch and Lucas seem to be doing the best. They both have ideas and act on them. Mitch's tarp/branch raft was insane but worked. His little tin box of embers was genius. Lucas wasn't beat down when his clay idea didn't work. He moved on to chanterelles, and maybe even a boat in future.
    Alan is lots of fun to watch. Loved the Julia Child impersonation when he was cooking that slug. And is introspection is very thoughtful and interesting. But he's not exploring or acting on ingenious ideas (other than food), so I'm worried for his longevity.
    Dustin is a non-entity so far.
    Sam started like a kid, howling at the wolves, and having the least sturdy shelter. Interested to see how long his cheerful nature can continue.

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    I sure hope we have/get updates on the ones who tapped out early - I'm curious about all of them, especially Brant. Ten quarts is a heck of a lot of bad water.

    Yes, Alan's Julia Child was a great moment - I think he's my favorite. I enjoy seeing his awkwardness with camera and staging as much as his more soulful moments.

    I appreciated the footage of dragging the camera equipment (rolling suitcase) along. We certainly don't see that often and it was good to have their solitude re-affirmed.

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