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    I remember Lisa from ANTM....very outspoken and abrasive so she should be an interesting part of the mix. With the incest relevations, MacKenzie has added an extra layer of crazy to her personna. Isn't Mindy the singer who had a relationship with the baseball star when she was VERY young?? Goodness, add in the Madame and we could almost have another series of Sex Addiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItReal;3775035;
    How could they possibly think to have Tom Sizemore and Heidi Fleiss on the same show??!!! I saw a documentary about her about two weeks ago and it spoke about those two having a very toxic relationship in the past, to the point that he had an assault case involving her. This just shows that this is made for tv "rehab" at it's worst, and yet like a circus freak show I know I'll be there front and center, unable to look away, especially since that complete and total train wreck Mackenzie Phillips will be on there.
    Unless McKenzie is using this as "aftercare" after a long intensive treatment program like Bridgette did that one season I can't fathom how they came to the conclusion a 28 day treatment program was the appropriate level of care for her addiction issues. There's no way for Joe Average in the real world that that would be considered an appropriate placement.

    I also don't understand how they can have Heidi and Tom in the same treatment program/groups with their relationship issues in the past.

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    I also don't understand how they can have Heidi and Tom in the same treatment program/groups with their relationship issues in the past.
    The producers put them on the show together because of their past relationship. Anything to create drama is ok in their book, no matter as to the actual treatment of these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daiseyo;3774587;
    From the VH1 site:

    The show will follow Mackenzie Phillips (One Day At A Time), Heidi Fleiss, Dennis Rodman, Mindy McCready (country music singer), Lisa D’Amato (America’s Next Top Model), Mike Starr (Alice in Chains), Kari Ann Peniche (ex-Miss United States Teen) Joey Kovar (Real World Hollywood), and Tom Sizemore. Returning to the show to help Dr. Drew are drug counselor Bob Forrest and resident technician Shelly Sprague who have each spent years on both sides of the rehab fence.
    Ho-lee.

    That list is gunpowder and nitro glycerin.

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    Dang. I really liked Joey from Real World Hollywood. I honestly thought he'd be able to clean up his act, he had some serious motivation. But then again, sometimes that's what makes people give up - the pressure.

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    I don't know if many of you have been reading any of Duncan's or Jennie's blogs, but they are both really interesting reads. Although they both write about their life after treatment - and both state they are continuing with outpatient treatment - Duncan has often written about what 'Sex Rehab' was like "behind the scenes." He recently wrote a entry on his impressions of his fellow rehabbers that I found particularly interesting. I know some people don't like to click on links, so I'll copy/paste a portion of the entry here. It's somewhat long, so I'll break it down into two parts:

    Nicole
    Jennie and Nicolle really did not get on very well. They shared a room but there was a tension that bubbled up between them and actually came to a head as we were standing in line off camera moments before we filed into Rehab Graduation. I didn’t and still don’t understand their gripe but I suggest it has something to do with class and pre-history. Nicole is one classy broad, elegant, chic, fierce. One of those gals who came to Hollywood in search of that ‘Hollywood Dream’ and ended up being one of it’s finest victims. Her Colin Farrell sex tape caused her to feel tremendous shame and ultimately isolated her from her friends and family. She faced Hollywood’s dark forces head on. Sex tapes are so often a double-edged sword, nobody really knows who, if anyone, will benefit. What I found out from most of the women I shared time in Sex Rehab with was just how many of them had sex tapes with celebrities squirreled away for a rainy day.

    Kendra
    Kendra and Lucas are the sweetest couple and live with hundreds of rescued dogs and cats in a sprawling house in Northridge. Kendra has devoted her life beyond ‘Kendra the Stripper’ to helpless animals and causes that fight injustice head on. Whatever may or may not happen to our friendship I know in my heart that she will always be there for me. She is the sort of woman who stops at the side of the freeway to open an abandoned cardboard box in search of kittens and puppies. She rescued my dog Luna twenty minutes before Luna was going to be destroyed. She has a huge, huge heart but seldom makes room in it for herself. I know that her philanthropic life is at odds with what she has to do to earn money. I am sure she is only moments away from the kind of woman she would like to be.

    Kari Ann
    Kari Ann needs to get the f**k away from David Weintraub. Her tendency toward men like him will destroy her life. Now she is Miss VH1 super b**ch I fear that no one will ever get to see the girl she could have been. With men like David Weintraub crafting her existence she may very well end up dead, drowned in her own vomit whilst David parties in a joining rooms. This deadly scenario is all too common in Hollywood. One could imagine an altogether nastier narrative for David documented with grainy TMZ videos of him being hustled, half dressed and sweating into police cars crying foul. I end up writing about Weintraub when I wanted to write about Kari Ann, there is a terrible irony to that-that he and men like him will always eclipse her. Her meth antics on Sex Rehab were not as constant as the show editors wish you to think. Sometimes we would just lay outside quietly chatting, giggling and smoking. I will remember her best like that. A sweet little girl with a meth habit.

    Phil
    Phil Varone, don’t you just love him? We all loved him. What isn’t there to love? He concisely articulated every problem he and others had. He was and is a superb diplomat and sensitive to boot. Watching him with his Dad has just made me love him even more. Phil and I played Mexican dominoes with Nicole and it was over those plastic tiles we got to know each other. We never locked horns, as I am wont to do with other males. Phil went to Sex Rehab to do the recovery work. If we had not been there I wonder if that work you see and relate to would have ever happened?
    For anyone interested, here are the links to Duncan's and Jennie's blogs:

    Duncan Roy

    Becoming Jennie

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    Here's the remainder of Duncan's entry:

    James
    During the interview process I told the producers that I likes surfer boys and lo and behold there was James. The big problem was that I never found him attractive. He, like Kari Ann, had arrived after a protracted period of drug and alcohol abuse and three weeks really wasn’t enough time for him to figure stuff out. He had been paid a great deal of money to wear certain clothing whilst on the show and that initially galled me. Maybe I shouldn’t have judged him so harshly. After the ‘rape the s**t’ comment he made to Jennie we got on very well and I even taught him how to knit. Even though I didn’t get to know James as well as the others I respected his dolphin like sea talents. We spent a day at Huntington Beach. Watching him surf was a joy.

    Amber
    Amber had a profound effect on me. She reminded me of a very beautiful version of my mother. Her emotions close to the surface, her aquiline elegance and sweet demeanor and real desire for recovery. Her story is harrowing and desperate. The enmeshed relationship she has with her mother, the loyalty she has for her mother, the huge price she paid for her addictions. Hearing her story would make me cry. The anger workshop we did, the paint in her hair, the way she almost flew through the air like an angel when she was throwing the paint and the eggs. I will never forget the impact she had on me. Amber, Phil and I had lunch recently at The Ivy. I am always slightly in awe of her. I always will be.

    Jennie
    Jennie, what more can I say? We were, are and will always be friends in whatever shape God intends. I am sure that my protectiveness will get in the way like it did when I now famously approached David Weintraub at Cecconi’s and challenged him after he was rude and demeaning with her. I want her to soar higher than I ever did-even though I get envious when she does. I want her success to fit her like a loose garment. I want everyone to be as amazed as I that a woman with so much talent could have buried herself so deeply in the sordid world of pornography. It amazes me that she touched the lives of so many men as a porn actress even if these broken men wanted to fix her with cheap, meaningless promises. I have not and will not see her in her porn incarnation, I met Penny Flame briefly but do not want to meet her ever again. I am privileged to know Jenny Ketcham. Our relationship is not without it’s hitches but we are addicts right? We are blighted by the disease of perception. Both of us.

    Himself
    Which brings me to..me, the eighth member of the Sex Rehab cast. You know what addicts are like, they either hate themselves or love themselves too much and I am no exception. I could make huge and grandiose statements about myself or I could tell you that I am a piece of s**t. I wrote that and I laughed out loud. I really have no idea what the others would say about me if they could right here right now-but I could guess. Kendra might say that I am a flakey friend who says he is going to show up but always gets way laid. Amber might be suspicious of me and Kari Ann would say, ’I love you to bits but you talk s**t about me’. Phil would find something totally loving and appropriate and Jenny might too. James would howl and say something dudeish and give me a huge hug. I would say, about me on sex rehab, like I have many times before, I am so glad that I got to go on the show and change my life because of it.
    Duncan Roy

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    Quote Originally Posted by daiseyo;3777591;
    Kari Ann needs to get the f**k away from David Weintraub. Her tendency toward men like him will destroy her life. Now she is Miss VH1 super b**ch I fear that no one will ever get to see the girl she could have been. With men like David Weintraub crafting her existence she may very well end up dead, drowned in her own vomit whilst David parties in a joining rooms. This deadly scenario is all too common in Hollywood. One could imagine an altogether nastier narrative for David documented with grainy TMZ videos of him being hustled, half dressed and sweating into police cars crying foul. I end up writing about Weintraub when I wanted to write about Kari Ann, there is a terrible irony to that-that he and men like him will always eclipse her. Her meth antics on Sex Rehab were not as constant as the show editors wish you to think. Sometimes we would just lay outside quietly chatting, giggling and smoking. I will remember her best like that. A sweet little girl with a meth habit.
    Daiseyo, thanks so much for posting Duncan's blog. I really enjoyed his insights about his cast mates, although I don't think I would characterize Kari Ann as a "sweet little girl." But more importantly, I had to comment about Kari Ann's 'manager" DAVID WEINTRAUB. Duncan is right! What a toxic guy!!!! He's the nightmare that first showed up on reality TV (as far as I know) on Jo and Slade's dating show, trying to date Jo. He was arrogant and obnoxious on that show, but it didn't even touch the tip of the iceburg as far as his personality was concerned! Then, he shows up, big time, on the first Celebrity Rehab as Mary Carey's 'manager/lover" who was so toxic and horrible and degrading and demeaning to her! Ugggghhhh! Does it surprise anyone that he's Kari Ann's man as well? Horrible guy!

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    Thanks for the blogs. I did enjoy them both and was pleased for the insight Duncan offered us on the personalities ---things that we did not see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperfect1;3777811;
    Daiseyo, thanks so much for posting Duncan's blog. I really enjoyed his insights about his cast mates, although I don't think I would characterize Kari Ann as a "sweet little girl." But more importantly, I had to comment about Kari Ann's 'manager" DAVID WEINTRAUB. Duncan is right! What a toxic guy!!!!
    Imperfect1 - No prob. I've enjoyed reading both Duncan's and Jennie's blogs, and thought others might as well. Regarding David Weintraub - what a vile individual. Another shocking fact that Duncan revealed in an article he had written for 'The Daily Beast' is that all of the women on Sex Rehab were represented by David Weintraub! Here's a bit of the article:

    First, I found out that all of the women on the show—Jennie Ketcham (the porn star), Nicole Narain (the Playboy playmate), Amber Smith (the model), Kari Ann Peniche (the former beauty queen), and Kendra Jade (the former porn actress)—had been wrangled and represented by a man named David Weintraub. He turns out to be a reptilian creature feeding off of the demi-fame of people like Sean Stewart, Rod’s wayward son, who had been on a season of Celebrity Rehab.

    Weintraub was also behind the b**ch branding of Kari Ann in our group. He knew that the only way to make the show more VH1 and less HBO was to enflame Kari Ann’s worst personality traits. She was constantly vile to staff and residents, demanding to all, and verging on racist. Yet, it felt to me, she was doing this largely at his behest so that she could appear on the next Celebrity Rehab and advance the company brand.
    The entire article is really interesting - again, more behind the scenes stuff. I know there have been a lot of comments regarding the lack of "real treatment" this show could provide, but Duncan stresses otherwise: "Our therapy was real and exacting and permanent." He admits to being really frustrated with the editing of the show, and wrote, "And the producers’ predisposition for dumbing down and minimizing important therapeutic work has been very hard for me to endure." He also wrote some interesting things on Dr. John Sealy, the renowned sex therapist, with whom Duncan had a real breakthrough moment. Before Duncan signed on to 'Sex Rehab,' he met with Dr. Sealy. In the article, Duncan wrote: "Interestingly, during that meeting Sealy confided in me that the producers of Sex Rehab had very different intentions from his. He genuinely wanted to shine a light into the shaming world of sex addiction, while Irwin Entertainment seemed hellbent on drama and titillation. (As it turned out, Sealy’s involvement on the show was minimal because he was awkward in front of the cameras, and not nearly as televisual as reality TV demands.)"

    It's a great article, if you get the chance to read it. The link for the article is: The Daily Beast

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