Jon & Kate Plus Eight

[luvsginger]

Originally Posted by MsDiva2007

Yeah Kate treats Jon Like he is a paid servant of hers.

I think he is treated worse. How many paid servants are yelled at like Kate yells at Jon and makes comments on their weight, their use of the English language, their breathing too loud all while clapping their hands in their faces?

How about the time that Jon had the nerve to iron his shirt before he asked Kate if she needed anything ironed as they were preparing for their night out?
Kate says "oh, what a man you are Jon". Can you imagine if an employer said that to their employee? Or if Jon had said it to Kate? "Oh, what a woman you are Kate!"

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[fluff]

That ironing situation was so ridiculous.
If they both need articles of clothing iron what difference does it make whose gets ironed first?

Kate seems to have contempt for males, or at least thinks females should be treated better.
The girls get served their foot first, if there aren't enough seats the boys get to sit on the floor.
When the girls had their special day, Jon always went along, when the boys had theirs Jon took them alone. Kate "doesn't drive hither, thither and yon."

I'm sure she thought it was the height of bad manners for Jon to dare to iron a shirt for himself (but would probably have complained if he'd asked her to do it) yet she seems to think shreiking "HEEEELLLLOOOOOOOO" across a toy store to get her husband's attention and embarassing him is perfectly ok.

Kate seems to be a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of person.

[AZChristian]

Originally Posted by fluff

. . . she seems to think shreiking "HEEEELLLLOOOOOOOO" across a toy store to get her husband's attention and embarassing him is perfectly ok.

I think that was the last episode I watched until this season's opening episode. As I watched it, I thought "Don't know how this marriage will last when she thinks nothing of humiliating her husband in public like that." Love? Honor? Cherish? Apparently they mean as much as "'til death us do part" in this marriage.

[j_mado]

I was never a regular viewer of the show, but I watched several episodes in the previous years. Last year I stopped because of how Kate treats Jon, and how the children have absolutely no privacy... Anyways, I just want to add one thing. If a husband treated his wife like Kate treats Jon, I'm sure there would be a public outrage; all woman's rights activists would be all over it. It would be called "abuse"; we would hate that husband, and we would want that show off the air. It's too sad that when a woman does the same thing, the show still goes on air. It's a double standard that I cannot stand.

[fluff]

Originally Posted by j_mado

I was never a regular viewer of the show, but I watched several episodes in the previous years. Last year I stopped because of how Kate treats Jon, and how the children have absolutely no privacy... Anyways, I just want to add one thing. If a husband treated his wife like Kate treats Jon, I'm sure there would be a public outrage; all woman's rights activists would be all over it. It would be called "abuse"; we would hate that husband, and we would want that show off the air. It's too sad that when a woman does the same thing, the show still goes on air. It's a double standard that I cannot stand.

There are a lot of double-standards in people opinions when it comes to this family.
I've seen people on other boards suggesting Jon be thrown out of the house without a penny to his name because Kate's the one that makes all the money.
I doubt anyone would suggest a stay at home mum should be thrown, penniless out into the street, whether she'd been accused of having an affair or not.
I also think some of the criticism Kate gets for working away so much would not be levelled against a father who had the same schedule.
Of course I also think a lot of the criticism aimed at Kate is because every single thing she is able to do to make money is as a result of having tups and twins.
The claims of "I do everything I do for my kids" ring a little hollow when you're walking around in a different $300 pair of shoes every day which you bought with money you got because of your children.
My husband watches the show very rarely.
In one of the first episodes he saw Kate cracked Jon around the face and my husband immediately said, "Imagine the outcry if he'd hit her."

[hepcat]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

This was more than mere honesty, this was wanting to get back her mother imo. Most children that age would feel bad about liking/loving one parent more than the other and would never express this sentiment. Either Maddy has been taught that she need never consider other people's feelings or she has a REAL grudge against her mother. Interesting that the interviews are trying so hard to depict Kate as a super mother and the opposite is always exposed in those same interviews. The interviewer was really trying hard to pull some compliments out of those kids, lol.

I thought the question was inappropriate ("which parent do you like best?") but I found it very jarring that she had an answer instantly. You can't help but relate these things to your own life and since I have a daughter the same age as Mady, I know she would have to at least think about it for a while before answering because she's never thought about it before.

Do interviewers ask this a lot? It seems cruel to put that idea into their heads, not that Mady needed prompting, but all the kids were sitting there when she asked her.

Originally Posted by fluff

The claims of "I do everything I do for my kids" ring a little hollow when you're walking around in a different $300 pair of shoes every day which you bought with money you got because of your children.

No kidding.

[Bunny555]

Originally Posted by hepcat

I thought the question was inappropriate ("which parent do you like best?") but I found it very jarring that she had an answer instantly. You can't help but relate these things to your own life and since I have a daughter the same age as Mady, I know she would have to at least think about it for a while before answering because she's never thought about it before.

Do interviewers ask this a lot? It seems cruel to put that idea into their heads, not that Mady needed prompting, but all the kids were sitting there when she asked her.

No kidding.

I don't think she was asked which parent she liked better. The interviewer asked both Mady and Cara if they thought Kate was a great Mom and they both kind of mumbled "yes", then Mady brightened up and said "but I like Daddy better"
Out of the mouths of babes.........

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by Bunny555

I don't think she was asked which parent she liked better. The interviewer asked both Mady and Cara if they thought Kate was a great Mom and they both kind of mumbled "yes", then Mady brightened up and said "but I like Daddy better"
Out of the mouths of babes.........

I agree, I think that's more accurately what happened. I sure don't remember the interviewer asking which parent she favored. It just didn't look good for Kate and the interviewer was sweating bullets trying to put a good face on the situation. It was pretty unusual.

[hepcat]

Originally Posted by Bunny555

I don't think she was asked which parent she liked better. The interviewer asked both Mady and Cara if they thought Kate was a great Mom and they both kind of mumbled "yes", then Mady brightened up and said "but I like Daddy better"
Out of the mouths of babes.........

I rewatched it and you're right, it got twisted up in my memory. It's still something jarring coming out of a kid's mouth, though.

[luvsginger]

Mady reminds me of my daughter, she says exactly what she feels and sometimes I think she is saying for shock value. My daughter is a very strong willed girl and so is Mady. I think Mady will come out of this ok, Cara is the one I worry about. She seems to keep things inside which is really not that healthy, imo.