Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Page 211

Wind Dancer · 09-21-2009, 11:31 AM

Does it boil down to whose vehicle purchase makes more sense?

Kate's buying an SUV that doesn't hold all the kids--

or

Jon's throwing away the money his children earned for him on a vehicle for one of his "Babes"?

Which is more morally reprehensible?

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MizDaisy · 09-21-2009, 02:39 PM

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Does it boil down to whose vehicle purchase makes more sense?

Kate's buying an SUV that doesn't hold all the kids--

or

Jon's throwing away the money his children earned for him on a vehicle for one of his "Babes"?

Which is more morally reprehensible?

They're both throwing away money that was earned by the kids. Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser any more than Jon needed the cars he's purchased, for whatever reason.

IMO the morally reprehensible issue is the exploitation of these children by both of their parents, who are determined to earn the family's income on the backs of these kids as long as they can sell them out to TLC or the highest bidder.

sclilred1 · 09-21-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MizDaisy

They're both throwing away money that was earned by the kids. Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser any more than Jon needed the cars he's purchased, for whatever reason.

IMO the morally reprehensible issue is the exploitation of these children by both of their parents, who are determined to earn the family's income on the backs of these kids as long as they can sell them out to TLC or the highest bidder.

I agree with you completely! I think that is the biggest problem of all concerning these "parents". I don't get how anyone can support Kate OR Jon. They are both guilty of buying things that are not needed, spending money on things not for the kids, using their kids to earn a living. Neither Kate nor Jon are parent of the year material. They are however a perfect example of how NOT to raise your children.

Jexter · 09-21-2009, 04:23 PM

Well, we all know the show exists because of the kids but it's not like Jon and Kate haven't worked themselves.

Yep, BOTH of their purchases have little excessive and don't seem to reflect the idea that TLC money could very well dry up in the aftermath of all the ugliness, but they have worked - and probably worked pretty hard, I think and they deserve a salary.

Unrelated note....just saw a tidbit of Kate on the View where she and Kathy Griffin were talking about their extended families. Kate said something like she doesn't talk to her family because when she does, they come back to bite her.

I think it is soooo funny that she could take the victim role with her own family when she was really the one to treat them so shabbily to begin with.

Jupiter · 09-21-2009, 04:35 PM

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Indeed.

J&K is the most divisive topic I've come across on these boards, yet it seems as if we can all safely state our opinions here - which is a testament to the spirit of FORT.

I cannot get my head around why anyone would support Kate - from Day 1. I honestly just don't get it. And, it's clear there are others who don't get why some support Jon.

For whatever reason, we all see the VERY same activity and yet we interpret it differently.

Jexter...I agree with you completely about this show and message boards. Read any board anytime that covers J&K...and the language is downright hostile. Everyone is free to express how they feel...I like that kind of dialogue...but that old expression we never really know what goes on behind closed doors...is so true (even with these fools). I've read posts by folks on other sites that sound as if they are having a nervous breakdown.

Jupiter · 09-21-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MizDaisy

They're both throwing away money that was earned by the kids. Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser any more than Jon needed the cars he's purchased, for whatever reason.

IMO the morally reprehensible issue is the exploitation of these children by both of their parents, who are determined to earn the family's income on the backs of these kids as long as they can sell them out to TLC or the highest bidder.

MizDaisy...you are one of the more frequent and lengthy posters about this show. Do you know these people..or you seem to be close to the situation. Just curious I guess.

Kao · 09-21-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MizDaisy

They're both throwing away money that was earned by the kids. Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser any more than Jon needed the cars he's purchased, for whatever reason.

The difference being that while Kate has socked away the lion's share of her earnings for the children, Jon hasn't put anything in the children's accounts; he's spent all of his share on women, wine and song (depending on Kate to pick up the slack in regards to the children). Not cool. Not cool at all.

PugMum · 09-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Maybe Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser. But so what that she bought it. My coworker has a Land Cruiser and she paid no where NEAR $65,000 for it. So I really do doubt that Kate paid that much. But again, so what? She can afford it. And it is a more practical car to have with children and living in the snowy weather then it is to have multiple $65,000 sports carS.
Yes, if we are to believe what the tabs print about Kate then we should give Jon equal time and believe what is in print about him. Jon has two sports cars and a $4,000 a month penthouse apt. AND he bought his flavor of the day a $50,000 MB.

The MGM does not pay anyone to appear at their pool parties. They do not need to. There is a line up of wanna be stars willing to pay to be there to get the publicity. Jon paid to be there. He is paying to get his name out there as mush as possible.

MizDaisy · 09-21-2009, 09:03 PM

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The MGM does not pay anyone to appear at their pool parties. They do not need to. There is a line up of wanna be stars willing to pay to be there to get the publicity. Jon paid to be there. He is paying to get his name out there as mush as possible.

If you have a credible source for your information, I hope you'll contact Eonline and MyFoxPhilly so they can correct these stories.

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The difference being that while Kate has socked away the lion's share of her earnings for the children, Jon hasn't put anything in the children's accounts; he's spent all of his share on women, wine and song

No one really knows if money has been set aside for the kids, and if there is, whether it's come from Kate or Jon's share of the income. Jon is certainly the more visible spender, but without an actual financial statement, it's anyone's guess about what he does or doesn't have to spend. I think Kate's just sneakier about what she does with her share of the money (e.g., the accusations from Jon that she's hoarded cash).

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they have worked - and probably worked pretty hard, I think and they deserve a salary.

Yes, they've both worked on the show. But if they're working, then the kids are working too, and deserve a substantial portion of the earnings to be paid to them in salary and secured in trusts. But both parents insist the kids are NOT working, they're just being filmed doing what they do. Of course, they can't admit the kids are working, any more than TLC will admit it. As long as TLC claims they're only filming a documentary, they can avoid being held accountable for the real work these kids have done since filming began.

The only way to know for certain that some portion of the money these children have earned is safe from their greedy parents is to pass laws protecting kids working on reality shows, similar to the laws that protect child actors.

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Whether you lean towards Jon or Kate's side, I think we can all agree that it is the children who need to be defended, not those two idiots!

I don't lean toward either one of these clowns. For me, it's always been about the kids.

Wind Dancer · 09-21-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MizDaisy

They're both throwing away money that was earned by the kids. Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser any more than Jon needed the cars he's purchased, for whatever reason.

IMO the morally reprehensible issue is the exploitation of these children by both of their parents, who are determined to earn the family's income on the backs of these kids as long as they can sell them out to TLC or the highest bidder.

MizDaisy--hi.

IMO Jon's buying the vehicles for a girlfriend is much worse from a moral point of view than Kate's buying a vehicle for the kids.

IMO this is just another example of where Jon's interest is--and is not.

Put more plainly--he took money that his children made for him and he spent it on what my grandmother used to call "Floozies."

09-21-2009, 11:31 AM	#2101
Wind Dancer Beauty dances in the wind Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,440	Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight Does it boil down to whose vehicle purchase makes more sense? Kate's buying an SUV that doesn't hold all the kids-- or Jon's throwing away the money his children earned for him on a vehicle for one of his "Babes"? Which is more morally reprehensible?

09-21-2009, 04:23 PM	#2104
Jexter FORT Fogey Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,968	Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight Well, we all know the show exists because of the kids but it's not like Jon and Kate haven't worked themselves. Yep, BOTH of their purchases have little excessive and don't seem to reflect the idea that TLC money could very well dry up in the aftermath of all the ugliness, but they have worked - and probably worked pretty hard, I think and they deserve a salary. Unrelated note....just saw a tidbit of Kate on the View where she and Kathy Griffin were talking about their extended families. Kate said something like she doesn't talk to her family because when she does, they come back to bite her. I think it is soooo funny that she could take the victim role with her own family when she was really the one to treat them so shabbily to begin with.

09-21-2009, 07:53 PM	#2108
PugMum Hockey Mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North of Reality Posts: 2,308	Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight Maybe Kate didn't need a Toyota Land Cruiser. But so what that she bought it. My coworker has a Land Cruiser and she paid no where NEAR $65,000 for it. So I really do doubt that Kate paid that much. But again, so what? She can afford it. And it is a more practical car to have with children and living in the snowy weather then it is to have multiple $65,000 sports carS. Yes, if we are to believe what the tabs print about Kate then we should give Jon equal time and believe what is in print about him. Jon has two sports cars and a $4,000 a month penthouse apt. AND he bought his flavor of the day a $50,000 MB. The MGM does not pay anyone to appear at their pool parties. They do not need to. There is a line up of wanna be stars willing to pay to be there to get the publicity. Jon paid to be there. He is paying to get his name out there as mush as possible.