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Old 07-04-2009, 07:34 PM   #1111
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Jexter, I am the same way. I refuse to watch the show as I am usually busy at my son's soccer games but even if I was free I would catch the reruns on CBS or be outside, reading a book. I live in Minnesota and summer is a SHORT season.
Now that is a coincidence. I'm in MN, too! There are a few of us on FORT, I think.
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:27 AM   #1112
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I pretty much agree with all that you say. Except..... a real lady would [B]never bed a married man. No matter what shape he says his marriage is in.[/b]
Totally agreed! The woman who is Jon's "GF" is a special kind of ummm ~character~. How she can sleep at night when she knows she played a part in breaking up breaking up the 10 year marriage of J&K who happen to have 8 kids in the public eye and who's Mommy & Daddy and now YOU sweetie(the GF) on lots of Gossip Mags and websites, is beyond me!!!!
I mean Mady & Cara can only be sheltered so much. They are now what 8? Kids at 8 KNOW stuff. They go to school. Kids talk and kids can be really cruel at that age especially girls. The 5 yr olds Tups are soon to soon follow.

How could the GF have been with Jon all this time thinking about what she and JOn are doing and what it will do to those 8 little faces when they find out???(sorry for the pun! Couldn't resist!)
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Totally agreed! The woman who is Jon's "GF" is a special kind of ummm ~character~. How she can sleep at night when she knows she played a part in breaking up breaking up the 10 year marriage of J&K who happen to have 8 kids in the public eye and who's Mommy & Daddy and now YOU sweetie(the GF) on lots of Gossip Mags and websites, is beyond me!!!!
I mean Mady & Cara can only be sheltered so much. They are now what 8? Kids at 8 KNOW stuff. They go to school. Kids talk and kids can be really cruel at that age especially girls. The 5 yr olds Tups are soon to soon follow.

How could the GF have been with Jon all this time thinking about what she and JOn are doing and what it will do to those 8 little faces when they find out???(sorry for the pun! Couldn't resist!)
I'm sure she didn't play any part in the breaking up of this sham of a marriage.
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I'm sure she didn't play any part in the breaking up of this sham of a marriage.
I don't think she played any part of breakig up the marriage either.....it was already over & done with.....but I still would not be sleeping with him until he was divorced
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:03 PM   #1115
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I don't think she played any part of breakig up the marriage either.....it was already over & done with.....but I still would not be sleeping with him until he was divorced
Me neither. But do we know they did sleep together?
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Me neither. But do we know they did sleep together?
nope we dont....just spec...& the girls brothers word.....which IMO I wouldn't trust any thing that guy said...it was very obvious he was looking for his 15 minutes
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Me neither. But do we know they did sleep together?
Well... no one was in the room with them at the time... but all signs point to a Yes on that. He brought her to Utah with him for his vacation without Kate, and there is video out there of him leaving her house very early one morning. I'm not always the most observant one - but I would put money on it.
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Me neither. But do we know they did sleep together?
Well we are ready, willing and able to believe Kate's brother and all the vile that he spews about Kate.
So it only fair to afford the GF's brother the same courtesy and believe it when he says that Jon is a frequent bed guest of the gf.
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I don't think she played any part of breakig up the marriage either.....it was already over & done with.....but I still would not be sleeping with him until he was divorced
Kate wants everyone to believe it's the reason for the breakdown of the marriage. All anyone has to do is watch 5 minutes of any episode and its clear that Kate is the reason the marriage is over. She claims to be a Christian woman but doesn't follow even the most basic of Christian teachings; "Do unto others as you would expect they should do unto you".
How would Kate like it if Jon treated her even 1/10 as bad as they way she treated him?
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Well we are ready, willing and able to believe Kate's brother and all the vile that he spews about Kate.
So it only fair to afford the GF's brother the same courtesy and believe it when he says that Jon is a frequent bed guest of the gf.
Kevin Kreider holds a lot more credibility than Deanna's brother but even if it is true that Jon had an affair with her, it still does not excuse Kate's treatment of Jon and anyone else that she has kicked to the curb.


Kate has three speaking engagements scheduled in September. She allegedly gets paid $25,000 plus perks for each one. Who in their right mind would pay to hear Kate "spew" lies? or.....I wonder if Kate will make up a whole new set of lies this time around...
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Kate wants everyone to believe it's the reason for the breakdown of the marriage. All anyone has to do is watch 5 minutes of any episode and its clear that Kate is the reason the marriage is over. She claims to be a Christian woman but doesn't follow even the most basic of Christian teachings; "Do unto others as you would expect they should do unto you".
How would Kate like it if Jon treated her even 1/10 as bad as they way she treated him?

Kevin Kreider holds a lot more credibility than Deanna's brother but even if it is true that Jon had an affair with her, it still does not excuse Kate's treatment of Jon and anyone else that she has kicked to the curb.


Kate has three speaking engagements scheduled in September. She allegedly gets paid $25,000 plus perks for each one. Who in their right mind would pay to hear Kate "spew" lies? or.....I wonder if Kate will make up a whole new set of lies this time around...
luvsginger, the coupon episode did it in for me....not that I was the most avid watcher. Can you imagine if a husband yelled at the wife over a coupon the way Kate went on and on? "Give me the reciept! Where is the receipt? Oh God....I am NEVER letting you goshopping again. We don't buy things without a coupon! I AM GOING TO KILL YOU!" The FCC probably wouldn't have aired it!

There is no concrete evidence of Jon cheating. Was he innappropriate? For sure. And I am not excusing him or defending him but there is plenty of evidence of Kate verbally abusing Jon and generally treating him in a disrepectful manner.

But if Jon had said to Kate, "Gee could you tone it down a little?" he probably would have been met with: "Too bad. You knew who I was when you married me."

That old saying of "Women marry men trying to change them while men marry women expecting them never to change" is really true isn't it? Kate tried to change Jon and look where it got her.
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