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    I think not. Since ( i read) that she is managed by the same low-life that manages Seth, I think that is why he made a quick appearance on the show right after she left.

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    The only one who seems fully committed to this is Jenny Seth has impressed me so far this season as well, but he's been here more than once so who knows what will happen with him.

    Glad that Dr. Drew is FINALLY going to call Jennifer out in the next episode and possibly terminate her. I completely sympathize with her--living with this group of people would wear anyone down. However, there's a difference between losing your temper every so often and letting the F bombs fly every 10 seconds as she appears to be doing. Her comment that she's "just a recovering addict" says it all. She's just not equipped with the tools to handle this kind of role. She would be great for the cast to have as a support system or mentor, but not as an authority figure.

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    I wish we could see more of Jenny (former pornstar, Penny Flame) this season. If anyone didn't see her during the 'Sex Rehab' series, they probably aren't aware of what a bright and motivated individual she is, and how committed she is to her sobriety. This last episode edited her to be annoying with her "waterfall" chanting, and her argument with Kendra. I know there's more drama going on with Mike, Heidi, and Tom, but I wish we could at least hear Jenny speak more.

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    Also...why did they send Heidi away for the night to detox, yet Mike has been in the house the whole time? Dr. Drew said on camera that methodone stays in your system anywhere from 30-90 days and the mood swings resulting from it can be extreme. If Mike is still kicking, isn't he technically not "sober" then and therefore not suitable for a sober living environment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityRealmer;3868925;
    Tom is no saint, but if I had to choose sides between Tom and Heidi, I have far more sympathy for Tom. I think Heidi seems like a cruel, vicious, amoral and selfish person who enjoys inflicting pain on Tom. She does not seem to care about anyone but herself. Its clear Tom gets very hurt by her and then that turns to anger and his bad behavior. I would bet that any violent situations in the past between the two of them involved both of them playing guilty roles, not just Tom. I really think Heidi is a snake of a person.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    additionally, I think Heidi enjoys pushing Tom just to see how far she can. I do not condone violence or battery towards women, but if she acted like this when they were together, it is clear that she pushed and pushed

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    Tom is no saint, but if I had to choose sides between Tom and Heidi, I have far more sympathy for Tom. I think Heidi seems like a cruel, vicious, amoral and selfish person who enjoys inflicting pain on Tom. She does not seem to care about anyone but herself. Its clear Tom gets very hurt by her and then that turns to anger and his bad behavior. I would bet that any violent situations in the past between the two of them involved both of them playing guilty roles, not just Tom. I really think Heidi is a snake of a person.

    I do find this show sad in that they are all so messed up, its pretty heartbreaking

    He may not be a saint but what gives him the right or any other person to inflict physical pain or injury upon another? Heidi is the one that presented physical proof on his intended injuries upon her, where is there any proof or evidence that he had done the same? Inflicting injury upon on another human being in my world is unacceptable whether it be from a man to a woman or a woman to a man.....

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    I don't see heidi as a snake or amoral or vicous- I see her as someone who was hit and who is angry at the system for letting Tom get away with it. If there is someone to blame in the war between Tom and heidi it is Dr. Drew Pinsky, end of story, for placing them in the same house.
    Does she push Tom's buttons? Yes. But he obviously has anger issues to put it mildy. His excuse that heidi turned him into an addict is a load of crap- he's been battling addiction since his role in Saving Private Ryan, at least. it's obvious he is unwilling to take any responsibility for the consequences of his own decison making- it's always someone else whose the cause of his problems.

    Being hit by someone who loves you would change you forever. Having to be in the same house as that person is plain wrong as it detracts from both parties getting better. Dr. Pinsky's comments about Tom to Heidi haven't helped any-" He's a nice guy when he's sober" does nothing to make Heidi feel any better-in fact, it only fuels her rage because she has an authority figure telling her the guy who hit her is really just a great guy otheriwise. It's dismissive and dimisnishes her experience-as if hitting her wasn't Tom's fault, it was the disease. Or hers. I see Tom is suffering, and I sympathisize, but I certainly won't view Heidi as worse than he is or the reason he decided to hit her. The court overturning his conviction on a technicality doesn't help, either because he can use that as proof he didn't hit her(as he constantly tells the camera), when in fact, he did-I'm sure the courts decison pains Heidi to the core and makes her feel like her suffering means nothing to those in charge of protecting the victim.
    They just shouldn't be togethe if there's ANY HOPE for either of them to be succesful at maintaining sobriety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvsginger;3874086;
    He may not be a saint but what gives him the right or any other person to inflict physical pain or injury upon another? Heidi is the one that presented physical proof on his intended injuries upon her, where is there any proof or evidence that he had done the same? Inflicting injury upon on another human being in my world is unacceptable whether it be from a man to a woman or a woman to a man.....
    I agree 100 %. Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibot2much;3873503;
    I think not. Since ( i read) that she is managed by the same low-life that manages Seth, I think that is why he made a quick appearance on the show right after she left.
    Ew, it's not that guy David, is it? The one who pimps out -- I mean manages -- Mary Carey and other desperate drugged-out celebrities? Please say it isn't so.
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