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    May I remind everyone that we are not allowed to attack each other in this forum. We all have the right to differing opinions on the Duggar family and to post them here without fear of being attacked.
    I think Celestrial is saying that if this family offends you, maybe you would be better off not watching them. That is our right when we are watching anything that brings up painful memories or upsets us. It has become obvious in this thread that this show is hurting people who have painful memories coming up while watching it. That is a sad thing, but it is also everyone's own decision on whether or not they choose to watch the show. And, it is everyone's right here to give their opinion on each show, whether we agree with them, or not.
    Just as I feel that Anna should be allowed to choose a home birth if she wants, I feel everyone here has the right to give their opinion on it - even though I do not agree with them.

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    Then clearly we are in complete agreement. I was merely pointing out everyone's right to discuss what they please.

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    Sorry....I didn't mean to attack her...just kinda annoyed me to the point of all annoyance. I apologize.
    I just hate when people try and stereotype people especially when i don't see what there seeing.
    I know there will always be anti-duggars, but to me, you don't concert tickets for a band you don't like. Why waste half hour or hour of yourlife watching a tv show you don't like.
    I watch them because i strangely think there fasinating and interesting to me.

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    Well that's the beauty of different points of view - everyone sees something different, and is entitled to their opinion!

    I don't think Wind Dancer is "trying" to stereotype the Duggars at all, just commenting upon what she sees and how it comes off to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Dancer;3730450;
    Celestrial--hi.

    Sorry--but having worked in a job that was closely related to and allied with OB doctors and their patients I am going to disagree with you on this.

    OBs do NOT leave town without having lined up at least one doc to cover their patients for them--especially when they have patients close to delivering.

    To leave without arranging coverage--and without giving the substitute doc info about the patients who are awaiting delivery would come very close to malpractice--which no OB would want.

    This "explanation" of the doc just suddenly going out of town without leaving another doctor ready to take call for deliveries is very suspicious.

    IE--it does not make sense in terms of how OBs behave--and I suspect it was a made up "excuse" for having a home delivery.
    Just an FYI. The doctor who delivered my last child had a solo practice at the time (as did my pediatrician, for that matter.) When he was unavailable, he arranged for someone to cover for him but it would be a total stranger to the patient. And that I know for a fact.

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    No one's disputing that it would be a stranger. Personally, I think that may be part of the reason Anna chose a home birth.

    I do wonder though - did she know the doula and midwife?

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    Finally, I caught the episode of the Duggars on "Yes to the Dress". I don't think those shop owners are very nice! But, I could see why everyone thought Michelle's dress was going to turn out badly. When she was trying them on, they had her wear a shirt under the dresses just to get an idea of how it would look with the neckline. It looked pretty ugly. The finished product turned out very pretty though, I thought. I would never buy a dress from such horrible people. They act like a bunch of prima donas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tears.and.rain;3731109;
    No one's disputing that it would be a stranger. Personally, I think that may be part of the reason Anna chose a home birth.

    I do wonder though - did she know the doula and midwife?
    I think she knew the doula and midwife from the Bradley birthing classes that she and Josh took. So she was familiar with them and their views on childbirth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestrial;3730656;
    They said directly on the show, her doctor went out of town. so she choose instead of going to another doctor she didn't know to have a home birth.
    Who knows maybe Anna met the other doctor its's hard to say. We saw 11 hours of labour in maybe 20 minutes of the show.
    And Thats how it works here in canada. For anything, if you doctors not on call, or not there. you get the first doctor available for you. that how it work in ontario for us.

    But either way, there both safe and healthy as far as we know. So we don't we just stop all this prattle and disagreements and prejudices. Seriously if you dislike the way the lead there lives, and have problems with everything they do....DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!!!!
    Many people watch the Gossselins and criticize their lifestyle/child rearing pracgtices.

    If people accept payment to go on tv and show ther private lives--not only of themselves but also their children--they open themselves up to critique and criticism.

    What makes this reality show any different?




    Not every large family is quiverfulthey know there associated with it, but they don't believe that having children is a obligation in life.> or dominance over women. Considering Jimbob says all the time he leaves how many children they have to Michelle. So unless she's raping him to have a truck load of kids, i don't see him doing it.

    They are indeed associated with Quiverful--as your post states.

    Quiverful has ideas/practices that are more in tune with the 19th century than with living today.

    They are also associated with the teachings of Gothard--see the beginning of this thread--a system of behavior that is an expression of religious/social extremism.

    They are getting money to expose these ideas and practices on national tv. They should expect some criticism of such quaint and anti-social practices.

    Additonally--they are not only raising their children in this distinctly unrealistic way--but they are exposing their young children's private lvies to public scrutiny--without the children's consent.

    That looks like a lot to scrutinize and criticize.


    And--I am fascinated as to why this severely out of date lifestyle is being romanticized when everyone knows very well the dangers and restrictive lives the parents are training their children for.

    Many of their practices--especially in relation to their daughters--are no different than the restrictions that the Taliban impose on the wiomen of Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maude~flanders;3731139;
    Finally, I caught the episode of the Duggars on "Yes to the Dress". I don't think those shop owners are very nice! But, I could see why everyone thought Michelle's dress was going to turn out badly. When she was trying them on, they had her wear a shirt under the dresses just to get an idea of how it would look with the neckline. It looked pretty ugly. The finished product turned out very pretty though, I thought. I would never buy a dress from such horrible people. They act like a bunch of prima donas.
    Not only that, but I am a whole lot cheaper and I could find something better elsewhere...or better yet, get a designer gown for the same price as these dresses that could be worn again.
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