+ Reply to Thread
Page 92 of 101 FirstFirst ... 42828384858687888990919293949596979899100101 LastLast
Results 911 to 920 of 1007
Like Tree80Likes

Thread: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

  1. #911
    FORT Fogey causingchaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    1,898

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Darn few people actually support themselves off of their porn careers especially doing as few of movies as she did. Typically the girls are paid per scene and not paid exceptionally well especially if they're not "known" in the industry. So to make a lot of money the girls do A LOT of scenes. They don't get all those royalties and what. Then to supplement their income and really where the bigger bucks come in the girls do feature dancing constantly. They do a constant circuit of dancing when they're not shooting scenes. Amy's tiny handful of movies hardly constitutes a porn a career and she would have a tough time justify that is how she supported herself since she got out of jail. Her website was short lived and not really known. Again hard to justify that's how she supported herself. And she did feature dance but again not frequently and with her she likely won't make a whole ton of money doing that because compared to some of the other girls in porn she looks a little ragged and guys don't pay a lot of money to watch ragged women get naked.

    She is not a victim of the world nor is her porn career that overwhelming that she can't move past it into something else. I went to college and grad school with people with felony convictions so it's not unheard of I also worked at jobs where no education was required with people with felony convictions. It won't be fast money but if she doesn't want to work in the adult industry it's an option.

    And again she could walk away from California, change her name and be unknown and work somewhere. But to me it appears she thrives on being the victim and being "known" even if it's for her extremely poor choices over the years.

  2. #912
    FORT Regular
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    92

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Quote Originally Posted by causingchaos View Post
    Darn few people actually support themselves off of their porn careers especially doing as few of movies as she did. Typically the girls are paid per scene and not paid exceptionally well especially if they're not "known" in the industry. So to make a lot of money the girls do A LOT of scenes. They don't get all those royalties and what. Then to supplement their income and really where the bigger bucks come in the girls do feature dancing constantly. They do a constant circuit of dancing when they're not shooting scenes. Amy's tiny handful of movies hardly constitutes a porn a career and she would have a tough time justify that is how she supported herself since she got out of jail. Her website was short lived and not really known. Again hard to justify that's how she supported herself. And she did feature dance but again not frequently and with her she likely won't make a whole ton of money doing that because compared to some of the other girls in porn she looks a little ragged and guys don't pay a lot of money to watch ragged women get naked.

    She is not a victim of the world nor is her porn career that overwhelming that she can't move past it into something else. I went to college and grad school with people with felony convictions so it's not unheard of I also worked at jobs where no education was required with people with felony convictions. It won't be fast money but if she doesn't want to work in the adult industry it's an option.

    And again she could walk away from California, change her name and be unknown and work somewhere. But to me it appears she thrives on being the victim and being "known" even if it's for her extremely poor choices over the years.
    Agreed. My understanding is that she and her family live in a gated community in Long Island. If she didn't want to be known as the Long Island Lolita, she could easily move away from there, take her husband's last name, etc. It's her name, not her face or body, that is recognizable to the general public. That's why her husband's business is also being affected. If they moved to a different part of the country and she took his last name, nobody would ever be able to immediately put one and one together.

    That being said, she probably did make a very good profit from the handful of porn movies she did. They were apparently the #1 selling adult videos at one point this year, so she probably got a lot more money than an unknown would. Same with the dancing. She doesn't have the same physique as a typical porn star, but it's the carnival show factor that would bring people in. You don't see many celebrities or public figures, even those of the Z-list variety, getting into adult movies.

    Didn't she release a tell-all book as well when she got out of prison? It wouldn't surprise me if she was paid at least $1 million for that. If she was smart and invested wisely, she probably made enough between that and her other media stints to survive until now, hence the porn career and appearing on Celebrity Rehab.

  3. #913
    FORT Fogey causingchaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    1,898

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    The money she makes off the movies doesn't change if the movie becomes number one or number 100. She's paid per scene a flat rate. There's no royalties involved. It's only different if she becomes a contract girl at one of the companies but there are very very few of those around and even they end up working a lot doing escorting and dancing. As for the dancing it's all about the tips. Lots of people watch for the carnival aspect but not a lot people tip unless they're getting their jollies. Again I don't see that as a money maker for her either.

    The only potential money makers I see for her is the movie her and her husband have out of themselves, the website she isn't a part of anymore, and the flash in the pan book. But the money from all 3 of those is finite. The only thing she's known for is shooting someone and now taking her clothes off (which is only going to marketable for a short period of time for her). If she didn't want to be that girl she wouldn't be that girl. But she can't be mad at the things that are keeping her famous if it's her desire to stay famous. She'll never run away from that stuff because she keeps on going there and putting that stuff out there.

  4. #914
    FORT Fogey Debb70's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    10,833

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    I find this latest episode very interesting. Michael Lohan really broke down when talking about how he hates for his family to see the way he went ape suds over his ex-girlfriend. They kept telling him, then stop doing it. He has this thing in his head that things should be done his way and he goes ballistic when someone challenges it. I honestly, can't see that changing.

    It's obvious that the girl who was on Survivor will not stay sober. When they encourage Sober Living for her, you can see the wheels turning as she thinks of how she will reuse and how she can explain not going to Sober Living. So they take her to a women's sober living and the reason she won't go is because she wants her private bathroom. Please girl. Can't you come up with a better lie than that?

    I did feel for Steven Adler when Shellie broke the news that Mike had died. It looked like it hit them both really hard. The show did a In Memoriam at the the end of the episode. They said it was an overdose, but it seems like I heard it was something else. Does anyone recall what the final toxicology report said

  5. #915
    FORT Fogey
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    6,835

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Just saw the first part of the two part "Where Are They Now?" for this season. Bai Ling looks great. She seems so happy now--big, genuine smile. She acknowledges she still has work to do to come to terms with her past, but she was credited with being very diligent about her after care, and she's been doing martial arts in preparation for a movie in which she's been cast, and she said she's finding it very helpful in keeping her disciplined and focused. She got comparatively little screen time during the season (and during this episode), but she seems to be doing well. I really felt for her, because she was not only the victim of child abuse but government sanctioned child abuse, which had to be terribly confusing and hurtful for her.

    Jeremy looks much better off the steroids, and he's hired a nutritionist. They were a little worried that he wasn't quite as involved with keeping the group together as he once was, but he seems to be doing fine too.

    They were most worried about Michael Lohan and Amy Fisher, and IMO, they should be. Michael's burying himself in work with an intervention group, and while the work is a good thing, he looks like he's trying to dodge his own issues by focusing on everyone else's. Amy hasn't backslid in terms of her addiction, and she's given up the porn (which she says was making her $300,000-$400,000 a year--good heavens, what was she doing? I thought she only made a couple of films), but she's still all fragile and gave an absolute no to facing Mary Jo Buttafuco, even twenty years later, even though Mary Jo herself had seen the show, had gone through overcoming her own addiction to pain meds, and said she'd forgiven her and just wanted closure. I felt really bad for Mary Jo, because they talked to her first and had her all set up to expect possible closure, and then they yanked it away when Amy refused. Not that Amy didn't have the right to refuse, but why didn't they check with Amy first, before getting Mary Jo involved? If the answer had been, as it was, absolutely no, under no circumstances, because Amy said she wasn't ready, even twenty years later, they could have left it there and avoided getting Mary Jo's hopes up in the first place. Amy still seems too quick to blame the media for creating an image of her. She needs to face up to the fact that she gave the media the story to tell in the first place. It's not that she couldn't have changed since then, but she needs to acknowledge that as a teenager, she literally tried to murder someone. If Mary Jo hadn't turned her head at the exact right moment, she would have succeeded. She can't just keep crumbling at the very mention of it, because people are going to continue to mention it. Like it or not, it's why she's famous/infamous. She can't hide from it or deny it endlessly. If twenty years isn't long enough to deal with it, what's it going to take? Thirty years? Fifty years? Forever? Putting it off isn't going to make it easier or better.
    Debb70 likes this.

  6. #916
    FORT Fanatic jenniferboston1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    691

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Didn't Amy and Mary Jo reunite a few years ago on a talk show?

  7. #917
    FORT Fogey
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    6,835

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Quote Originally Posted by jenniferboston1 View Post
    Didn't Amy and Mary Jo reunite a few years ago on a talk show?
    I have no idea. They were certainly playing it as if they hadn't, but if they have reunited before, perhaps neither reached "closure" then. Amy was very, very definite that she did not want to discuss the situation with Mary Jo. I thought Mary Jo came off as being pretty honest about it. She said she had to forgive Amy for her own sake, because she didn't want to hang onto the anger anymore, and what still bothered her most was the fact that her grown son still has problems dealing with it. She feels like the incident hugely impacted her kids' childhoods, and Bob agreed with that--he said something like that it would only be natural for her son to be terrified that someone could come to his home and shoot the person he loved and depended on most. Maybe that's partly why Amy is so reluctant to deal with what she's done herself: she talks a lot about how it affected her life, but she wasn't the only one whose life was changed forever or who had to deal with media intrusion into his/her life. It's not like Mary Jo Butafuco or her kids can escape their associations with the story either.
    jenniferboston1 likes this.

  8. #918
    FORT Fogey causingchaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    1,898

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Tilden View Post
    I have no idea. They were certainly playing it as if they hadn't, but if they have reunited before, perhaps neither reached "closure" then. Amy was very, very definite that she did not want to discuss the situation with Mary Jo. I thought Mary Jo came off as being pretty honest about it. She said she had to forgive Amy for her own sake, because she didn't want to hang onto the anger anymore, and what still bothered her most was the fact that her grown son still has problems dealing with it. She feels like the incident hugely impacted her kids' childhoods, and Bob agreed with that--he said something like that it would only be natural for her son to be terrified that someone could come to his home and shoot the person he loved and depended on most. Maybe that's partly why Amy is so reluctant to deal with what she's done herself: she talks a lot about how it affected her life, but she wasn't the only one whose life was changed forever or who had to deal with media intrusion into his/her life. It's not like Mary Jo Butafuco or her kids can escape their associations with the story either.
    I always got the impression from Amy that she wanted to pretend like none of that happened but still live off the fame (infamy) she got from it. I never once got the feeling over the years that she ever once wanted to stand up and be honest about what happened and take ownership of her part of it. It's always Joey's fault. Or the media's fault. Or every single other person out there's fault. It's never Amy's fault.

    I've never seen her really sit down and honestly say "I tried to kill this woman and I feel remorse for that... etc." She's not behind honest with herself until she can start owning her own choices and mistakes in life. And if she's not going to be honest with herself she's going to be in a precarious position to relapse and go right back to where she was before... but of course that won't be Amy's fault either.
    Debb70 likes this.

  9. #919
    FORT Regular
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    92

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    What amazed me most about Amy is that she still lives in Long Island. I mean, you're known as the Long Island Lolita. If you wanted to try and escape your reputation and your past, you could at least move to another area. She talked about moving to Florida and that's definitely a good thing, but it seems like she will only make a few small steps in her progress. I guess a few small steps is better than nothing though.

    Judging from the previews next week, it looks like Sean Young, Jessica Kiper and Steven Adler have fallen off the wagon. Really surprised about Sean, not as surprised with Jessica, not at all surprised with Steven.

  10. #920
    FORT Fogey Debb70's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    10,833

    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Steven has always been one of the most stubborn people I have ever seen. He is just totally into his own thing and no matter what, he will not listen. Maybe it's brain damage. Really. I hope he stays off the hard stuff. I have read that you cannot overdose on pot.

    Jessica was so obviously looking forward to get out of Rehab so she could get high that it wasn't funny. I don't even think she looked like she really wanted to stay sober. It was such a joke.

    Sean was in a dream land if she thought she could stay sober while going back to a husband who is an active alcoholic. Everybody knows that's crazy. I don't even know why she would have gone into Rehab if she intended to go back to that kind of home. Maybe she needed the money.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.