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    Quote Originally Posted by redsox girl;4129364;
    From where I sit, Janice clearly accused Rachel of stealing specific things-a black jacket, pants and a lip gloss. The lip gloss was found by Frankie on a table. Rachel offered Janice the opportunity to look through her luggage and she repeatedly asked for a listing of `stolen items.' Janice refused to look through Rachel's things, which clearly indicates to me Janice was making up the whole Rachel stole my stuff' tantrum. Typical nd very tiresome. I frankly, understood exactly what Rachel was telling Dr. Drew while the others were at a rehab meeting-that Janice was being abusive and hostile and Rachel could not get anything done and felt that too much of her time and energy was placed on dealing with Janice's hostile nature. I found Drew's reaction to Rachel to be dismissive and disrespectful. If I could figure out what Rachel meant in the way she explained her concerns to Drew, I would think a guy with a PHD could put two and two together rather than saying `I don't think I understand what you mean.' I loathe Janice, yes I know she suffered a horrendous childhood but so did many of the other participants -it's no excuse to be abrasive, hostile, abusive and vulgar. She clearly instigates some of the disharmony and purposely ratchets it up then pretends to be the victim once she's pushed everyone's buttons. I loathe the use of the C word, I think it is one of the most offensive words any man can use, yet Eric Roberts had done everything reasonable to get Janice to listen...though I do not agree with him calling her the c word I do understand perfectly how she manipulated the entire situation in order to get him to come down to her level. She seems to enjoy `proving' how inferior everyone is, how imperfect. As for Frankie, I actually think once the detox is finished there might be hope for her-I see glimpses of kindness in her, especially in offering to share her room with Rachel. I cannot imagine in a million years, trying to concentrate on yourself and the hard work of sobriety when Scummy Bear and Janice are running the show. There's good reason Eric and Leif isolate themselves. Though isolating is in their natures hasn't it occurred to the staff that the extreme chaos that is allowed to reign there is further isolating some of the residents. If you truly want to get better or head in that direction how can you with so much noise, vulgarity and abusive behavior? The swearing, the antagonism, the confrontations have to be triggers for some of the residents there. Particularly those who alluded to violent upbringings. I would leave, too, to be honest. I mean what the heck is the point of going to a treatment center when your days and nights consist of either avoiding extreme confrontation or trying to break up extreme confrontations? I'd be emotionally drained and very angry at the staff, particularly Drew. I'm there to work on myself and to look to my peers for support-and the latter part is not happening in any way shape or form, causing stress and anxiety on people who are already fragile and given statistics, more likely than not to use, once they leave the program-why add to their stress by having severe cases such as Janice and Scummy Bear around? They clearly need a much higher level of care that deals with addiction and mental health issues. But, while they are staying at Drew's they should be held accountable for their choices in the way they interact with others.

    I believe Leif has already said, in group, that the fighting is a trigger for him, because it reminds him of what happened at home when he was a kid. It can't be good for someone like Eric, who was a victim of bullying either.

    I don't remember the early seasons of the show being quite this volatile, and I don't think it's fair to split the cast so clearly in terms of those who have hair triggers when it comes to chaotic outbursts and those who don't. It's like they're asking the people capable of being calmer to be the balance for those who aren't mature enough to do so, and the folks who aren't so outwardly abrasive are there to work on their own problems too. They're not strong enough to be the support system for people whose behavior is so problematic. Heck, it's getting to Shelly, and she's been clean and sober for years, not days. For that matter, I've never been addicted to anything, and I don't think I could be around that 24/7 without wanting to climb the walls.

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    I'm having a hard time with this season. What the hell is Rachel is even doing there. I understand why Janice is there - this is her thing, it's what she does for a living, and I'm fine with that. Does Rachel even have a problem (besides having sex with Tiger Woods)? Personally, and this is just my opinion is she left to go get botox. Her face is so motionless and frozen - I can't even tell if she is sad, mad, or otherwise.

    Further, sure these people are going through various withdrawals, but does that mean all rules go out the window? The place seems to be in current chaos. It seems to have taken a life onto itself - and I'm not sure it's worth sitting through anymore.

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    I'm having a hard time with this season. What the hell is Rachel is even doing there. I understand why Janice is there - this is her thing, it's what she does for a living, and I'm fine with that. Does Rachel even have a problem (besides having sex with Tiger Woods)? Personally, and this is just my opinion is she left to go get botox. Her face is so motionless and frozen - I can't even tell if she is sad, mad, or otherwise.

    Further, sure these people are going through various withdrawals, but does that mean all rules go out the window? The place seems to be in current chaos. It seems to have taken a life onto itself - and I'm not sure it's worth sitting through anymore.
    Maybe I'm confusing he with someone else, but didn't Rachel also have a bunch of prescription meds with her when she showed up? Maybe she's been abusing those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D.;4130331;
    Further, sure these people are going through various withdrawals, but does that mean all rules go out the window? The place seems to be in current chaos. It seems to have taken a life onto itself - and I'm not sure it's worth sitting through anymore.
    I think that withdrawal does mean all rules go out the window. Well, maybe not all, but between the chemical imbalance and the surfacing of emotional issues, all bets about good behavior are temporarily off.

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    Every facility has rules. If the rules cannot be followed properly there are consequences for the inability or unwillingness to follow these rules. These consequences are in place so that other residents who are at a diiferent level of care can make progress. Three of these people need to be gone and should be gone. Part of recovery, from what I understand, is to build a support system with your fellow residents, that support system cannot exsist when people like Janice and Scummy Bear are unwilling or unable to give or show any respect toward the other residents, the staff and themselves.
    I really do not understand why anyone, viewing this program would want to seek help for an addciton as the show portrays the treatment as nothing more than chaos, conflict and a staff unable to maintain a safe environment.
    Again, Janice and Scummy Bear have absolutley no business being in the same treatment program as Eric Roberts-they are at different levels of care and at differing levels of acceptance. Throwing such differing levels of addiction together imo, is not safe, healthy or condusive to proper treatment for those who are serioulsy ready to take the step toward recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilden;4130344;
    Maybe I'm confusing he with someone else, but didn't Rachel also have a bunch of prescription meds with her when she showed up? Maybe she's been abusing those.
    Oh, I'm not sure - I didn't see that, but she may have. She doesn't seem to have gone through very serious (or really even noticeable, in my opinion) withdrawls. However, I wouldn't have a hard time believing she was abusing some sort of substance, I just didn't and don't see any evidence of it. Either way, she's just a hot mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsox girl;4130462;
    Every facility has rules. If the rules cannot be followed properly there are consequences for the inability or unwillingness to follow these rules. These consequences are in place so that other residents who are at a diiferent level of care can make progress. Three of these people need to be gone and should be gone. Part of recovery, from what I understand, is to build a support system with your fellow residents, that support system cannot exsist when people like Janice and Scummy Bear are unwilling or unable to give or show any respect toward the other residents, the staff and themselves.
    I really do not understand why anyone, viewing this program would want to seek help for an addciton as the show portrays the treatment as nothing more than chaos, conflict and a staff unable to maintain a safe environment.
    Again, Janice and Scummy Bear have absolutley no business being in the same treatment program as Eric Roberts-they are at different levels of care and at differing levels of acceptance. Throwing such differing levels of addiction together imo, is not safe, healthy or condusive to proper treatment for those who are serioulsy ready to take the step toward recovery.
    I completely agree. This show is no longer about detox, rehab or helping addicts/abusers recover in any regard. It appears to be about "celebrities" signing up for face time, cash, and making unreal demands (Janice all of a sudden needs her own room because she lost her lip gloss??) - and having those demands met.

    I caught a repeat today where they showed how the patients are allowed cell phones for an hour a day??? What??? How is that in any way conducive to treatment? That is just a trigger for users. Scummy Bear was allowed, if not encouraged, to break the so-called rules and arrange for a ride out of there. I realize they are free to go - but talk about enabling! That was ludicrous.

    The staff member I see who is in the best state of mind to care for these patients is Shelly. She seems to know the patients, by name and by personality. But she can't carry this on her shoulders. Will seems to be stepping up a bit - but this mess should be handled by serious, full-time addiction specialists (doctors). I've never been particularly fond of (is his name Bob?) the recovering addict on staff there, but that is just a personality thing - he seems to understand the process and is willing to help.

    I agree this show is more a deterrent to treatment rather than encouragement.

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    I pray that when the "show" is over, these people go to real rehab facilities and truly get the help they need.
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    Re: Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Unfortunately, the majority of the celebs who step on to shows like this do it (I would imagine) primarily for the money and the chance to be on tv again. It's ridiculous to see how this show's evolved (de-volved) from the original airing. I know that some enter into healthy recovery, but those that do are few and the length of their recoveries vary widely.

    I still watch, but for me, it's more about seeing what will Dr. Drew do next. I find the staff, for the most part, to be the ones who seem genuine in their attempts, but those will only go so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_angel;4132076;
    I find the staff, for the most part, to be the ones who seem genuine in their attempts, but those will only go so far.
    I agree. In fact lets give Bob his own show he is the BEST!

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