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    Re: The Girls Next Door

    And wouldn't being a high end call girl be illegal? They may make a lot of money, but they can still be arrested for it. As odd as it is, and as creepy as it may appear to many, at least being one of three women living with your 'boyfriend' is not illegal.

    The only legal prostitution in the US is in Nevada, and it's not even legal in Clark County, which is where Vegas is. The girls at the brothels in Nevada have stricter rules than the Girls Next Door girls. They have to live on the ranch. They only get to leave for a few hours each week. And they do not live glamorous jetsetting lives. Those girls would probably kill for a chance at $4000 a month, plus living in a mansion, and getting a downpayment on a car, and travelling all over the world on someone else's dime

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    ... ... and how much of that 100 grand does a hooker take home anyway after the pimp/madam get their cut? And talk about lack of freedom, at least Hef wouldn't be sending you off to sleep with whomever he said. I wouldn't glamorize the call-girl gig too much. You're better off as Hef's girlfriend.

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    If you ask the high end escorts they are not necessarily having sex with the people they are going on dates with so by technicality it isn't illegal and the money they make isn't a payment it's a "gift." It's all a game of semantics really. Tossing a madam in there takes a considerable cut in there too. Or if we look at bunny ranch (a lower end option) a big chunk of money goes to the house too.

    I wouldn't glamorize high end anything because there are some hard realities there.

    However, I can't blame any of these ladies for hooking up with Hef if for no other reason than the money. I mean Kendra was stripping at some nasty joint what was her option really going to be? This was the better option. But I wouldn't glamorize their life either and I would delude myself into thinking they were loved or seen as anything more than another face in the crowd/easy lay really. You notice he doesn't pick out women who are necessarily well adjusted. They need him and he uses it to his advantage but he's by far not the only person to ever do that.

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    I wonder why Kendra had to resort to stripping. I realize she is not the brightest bulb but why would she strip? She seems to come from a nice family and I would think she could find a better way to make a living than to strip. What about Bridget? I really thought she had more class. I am so disappointed, I guess I was delusional in thinking that they were just presenting an image. I really didn't think they were sleeping with Hef at the same time. I feel so silly. Do you think his brother Keith is in on the action, too? Was there ever any mention of Keith in the book?

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    I'm not surprised about Kendra. From the visit-to-San Diego episode, her mother struck me as the trailer-park type (c'mon -- trying to pass off KFC and supermarket cake as homemade?), and the brother is grooming to become a Jerry Springer guest. Had Kendra and her "bewbs" not caught Hef's attention, she'd still be pulling Washingtons from her g-string.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot13;3237447;
    ... ... and how much of that 100 grand does a hooker take home anyway after the pimp/madam get their cut? And talk about lack of freedom, at least Hef wouldn't be sending you off to sleep with whomever he said. I wouldn't glamorize the call-girl gig too much. You're better off as Hef's girlfriend.
    I'm not talking about street prostitutes with pimps or girls who work at a bunnyranch... I'm talking about girls who are pretty and young and could be in Playboy (not your average street ho)

    Some work for a Heidi Fleiss or Mayflower Madam type situation (read the books) they make thousands.
    If you read Heidi's book "Pandering" or the Mayflower Madam book... they don't hire just anyone.. they typically hire girls who are well educated and very pretty.
    Someone who a rich businessmen would spend thousands to have a discreet relationship with.

    Remember Governor Spitzer in New York?

    THAT type of client... doctors, lawyers, politicians, judges, actors (like Charlie Sheen) etc etc etc... not the dude who drives down to the seedy end of town and gets a street prostitute who's pimp has her standing out in the rain for $20 a trick

    The high end girls run their own businesses with websites, they book their own dates or work through an agency and they make anywhere from $400 to over a $1500 per hour, they also travel with clients and charge thousands of dollars for a weekend like Ashley Dupre did with Spitzer.

    They don't advertise prostitution, they advertise "companionship" and take "donations" but most list their rates (donations) right on their websites... there's lots of them in every city.

    There's also hundreds of "Review" boards online where their clients write reviews of the time spent with this or that paid companion and what services she provided for the fee paid.

    They are what used to be referred to as "highend callgirls" but nowadays they advertise as... "independent escorts"

    Here in vancouver there have been several newspaper stories, radio interviews, TV news shows about them.

    For any of them (the highend ladies) to go live with Hef would be a huge cut in pay.

    A year or so ago I listened to a radio interview with several of them here in vancouver...one of the ladies being interviewed was asked to be a Hef girlfriend and she refused.
    She is a popular stripper/escort here in town who'd won several Miss Nude competitions etc...and she met Hef at a club party in LA.
    He invited her to the mansion and later asked her to move in but she declined.

    She said in the interview that for independent escorts in her price range it would be a drastic reduction in income and too restrictive as far as personal time and travel.

    She said she already meets famous men, sports stars, celebrities, politicians.. etc... so that aspect of the Playboy mansion didn't provide her with anything she didn't already have and the whole curfew thing was out of the question so she thanked Hef but graciously declined his offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by causingchaos;3237654;

    I wouldn't glamorize high end anything because there are some hard realities there.
    oh and just to clarify, I'm not trying to glamorize any of it, sorry if it sounded like I was.... as far as I'm concerned they are what they are and might as well call a spade a spade... "prostitutes"

    Whether they live at Hef's house and service an aging millionaire who places them on a curfew or secretly meet with Gov. Spitzer at a fancy hotel for sexual encounters or fly to Aspen with a wealthy businessman who no ones ever heard of and get paid $10,000 for a couple nights it's still "Lipstick on a pig" and I wouldnt encourage anyone to follow that path in life.

    My only point was and continues to be that a lot of young women who look like Kendra, Holly, Bridget, Izzabell or hundreds of other Playboy girls can and DO make a lot more than $4,000 a month to provide companionship to wealthy men and they don't have to live with him 24/7 and they don't have to do "it" in a group with a bunch of other girls watching. (That was one of the things that Izzabelle talks about in the book, how it's always Hef and a group and Holly starts things off, then other girls will join in and sometimes Hef will get one of the new girls involved and blah blah but Holly is always the one to START and FINISH no exceptions and she watches everything and gets kinda weird if new girls do certain things with Hef that she prefers that he only do with her...blah blah... it all sounded creepy to me like she would be watching over you like a spider and noting every detail of what you do with her boyfriend)

    If i recall correctly in the book Izzabell said she was tipsy the first night she joined in because it just wasnt her natural preference to do that with a bunch of other girls all watching and swapping places or whatever.

    I realize that Kendra, Holly and Bridget have the additional income generated by their appearance on the show but a lot of escorts wouldn't see that as a bonus because they keep they're profession a secret and work under assumed names because they don't want the world or their family and friends to know what they do for a living.

    Apparently Kendra, Holly and Bridget don't care who knows.

    Maybe they're the smart ones and it's healthier to just put it all out there and let the chips fall where they may... dunno.

    To each their own.
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    The girls as they were before they started getting modified by Hef could never have hacked it as a high end escort. Especially Kendra. There is a certain amount of tact that one has to have and their clients expect a certain amount of conversational skill. It's not all glamor being a high end escort. I work with a lot of people ranging from average everyday strippers all the way on up to high end escorts. It's not a nice lifestyle regardless of how it is glamorized in TV and books.

    And the girls are just another form of prostitute with Hef. They get their money plus in-kind gifts, just like all those high end escorts and street prostitutes a like.

    There is nothing sexy or positive about that lifestyle .

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    Quote Originally Posted by causingchaos;3237943;
    The girls as they were before they started getting modified by Hef could never have hacked it as a high end escort. Especially Kendra. There is a certain amount of tact that one has to have and their clients expect a certain amount of conversational skill. It's not all glamor being a high end escort. I work with a lot of people ranging from average everyday strippers all the way on up to high end escorts. It's not a nice lifestyle regardless of how it is glamorized in TV and books.

    And the girls are just another form of prostitute with Hef. They get their money plus in-kind gifts, just like all those high end escorts and street prostitutes a like.

    There is nothing sexy or positive about that lifestyle .
    I agree completely... it's a terrible way for a young woman to make a living no matter how wonderful they make it sound or how pretty of a bow they tie around it.

    Hef calls them his girlfriends because he knows that helps them buy into the fairytale that they aren't prostitutes.

    He always gets bored with the ones he has and moves on to a new harem sooner or later.

    Izzabelle said he drags home new girls from the nightclubs and he's always on the prowl for new recruits.

    There's nothing special about Kendra, Holly or Bridget... they're just 3 more faces in a long line of prostitutes.... OOOPS!! I mean girlfriends! he's gone through and pushed aside over the years.

    I wonder how long his new twins will last? :
    Last edited by Lostgirl; 11-20-2008 at 12:38 PM.
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    Some girls may be able to earn more than $4000 a month but living at the mansion includes room and board along with the perks of living with a celebrity. Many parties, free trips, free booze, connections and security. I wonder what kind of a dump Kendra was living in while she was stripping. At least now she is engaged to a professional athlete and move on with her life. I did think it was strange how her mother tried to pass of KFC as homemade, yuk! From what I've read here, Hef wouldn't have eaten it anyway!

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