Property Ladder - New show on TLC - Page 12

Bearcata · 10-16-2005, 11:05 AM

Melanie, owns her own Bali import business is going to first time flip a 70 yr old house with her mom, who flipped a property 30 yrs ago. Melanie bought the house for 750,000 plans to put in 50,000 of improvements and sell it for 980,000. Per Kristen good luck if you can do it.

First off, Melanie has no FYI experience at all. She did not research the flipping process and does not have a clear plan of what she wants done and of course does not listen to anything that Kirsten says. Surprise, surprise. I don't get people who have no building experience expect to come into the business and use the cheapest laborers ( you get what you pay for ) and expect to make a huge profit. The construction business is notorious for having poor contractors and fly by night operators and yet these inexperienced ladies who cannot keep track of their budget expect to get off scott free. Duh!!

What I loved about this show is that there is a gas leak in the house, the old plumbing needs to be redone and so does the electrical. Do the words Home Inspection mean anything. Of course a 70 yr old home has stuff wrong with it and it needed to be addressed during demo not after, when it will cost 3 times as must to fix. By the end of the show Melanie still retained her 980,000 asking price which the open house visitors and realtors all thought was too high. She blew her 4 week timeline into 20 wks and of course blew her budget and had yet to sell her home by the end of the show.

This episode is a great warning to first time flippers start small, don't demo any outside walls, check the plumbing and electrical in older homes, have a plan and a budget and stick to it.

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canadian_angel · 10-16-2005, 01:37 PM

The other thing it shows, is don't have a temper tantrum or pouting fits when someone else is trying to tell you what's wrong so you don't mess yourself up later on.

mischief4911 · 10-16-2005, 11:14 PM

She was totally clueless from the get go to even imagine that she could do the things she wanted to do for 50k. I really think that she hired her friend as the contractor because she figured she would get a deal on the price. Im glad that he kept things on the up and up and wouldn't give in on doing the work without the permits.

Just a bit of trivia that means nothing in the context of this show, but I thought I would add ...... Melanie was one of the contestants on Paradise Hotel a couple of summers ago.

Broadway · 10-17-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mischief4911

Just a bit of trivia that means nothing in the context of this show, but I thought I would add ...... Melanie was one of the contestants on Paradise Hotel a couple of summers ago.

I thought I recognized her from somewhere!

I definitely think she thought she could pop in there with her skin tight tank tops and get whatever the heck she wanted at a discount. How clueless can you be to 1) start ripping the house apart before you even get approved for the loan (or receive the money), 2) set a budget of $50,000 when you haven't gone shopping to determine what an estimated cost will be for what you want to do, or 3) fully research what problems you need to investigate?

I was floored when she bought this top of the line shower system and then couldn't believe it when it cost $1400. And then she wonders where the money went???? Moron.

Bearcata · 10-17-2005, 11:50 AM

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I was floored when she bought this top of the line shower system and then couldn't believe it when it cost $1400. And then she wonders where the money went???? Moron.

Why would she think the holes were not necessary and drill in more. How about going online and getting a brochure from the manufacturer on how to put it together.

Ana Bannana · 10-17-2005, 12:43 PM

Wonder if she ever sold the house? And how about borrowing $100G from her mom's friend?

Who does that??

Chorita KaBoom · 10-17-2005, 03:24 PM

I am really amazed by the people on this show. Melanie (former reality show bitch, er, participant) blows off professional property developer Kristen's advise, and goes with her mother (who flipped "a" house 30 YEARS AGO). When she doesn't get her way she pouts, and walks out of the room. She it's clear with her demo crew. She tells them to take out what ever has an X painted on it, but neglects to tell that she really doesn't want the bathroom tile busted up, even though she' painted an X on it. She when the professional contractor/friend tells her she needs permits for taking down walls, she pouts and complains that she doesn't understand why she would need them (uh, it's the law, you idiot!!). She fires the professional and hires a flybynighter, who will work without permits. I hope that she can be fined for this, the city has video evidence for their case (please, please, put her ass in jail, please)! Oh yeah, apparently she didn't get a house inspection, so major plumbing problems are there, and she doesn't get why the 60-70 year old plumbing isn't okay. She does all the cosmetic work, and none of the corrective work (which would require busting up her cosmetics, and she could be held responsible for). Why do I get the feeling that she did this flip for the chance to be on TV again? She did everything she could to make as much drama as possible.

Ilikai · 10-17-2005, 07:13 PM

all she had to do was fall out of that top one time and she could have been on playboy tv. She sure didn't mind putting them on display, probably hoping it would make everyone see things her way. Boobs is one thing, but getting money for a lousy job is hard work.

acgreen80 · 11-07-2005, 07:35 AM

Hey, I know I am a little behind on posting about this show...but when I was watching Extreme Makeover Home Edition last night (first time in a long while), I thought I recognized the girl on there...Tanya. She is the new designer to the show...but also from Property Ladder, the Tattered Hydrangea. Did anyone else see this?? I thought they said she was a stay at home mom on Property Ladder...you can check out her profile, etc, if you just put her name into google. It also states that the other part owner of the company is her friend, a licensed designer. It doesn't say anything about a cousin. Oh well. I was just wondering if I was the only one who was having conspicupus thoughts about Property Ladder now. Either way I guess its pretty cool that she is a designer on Extreme Makeover Home Edition!

bscouler · 05-28-2006, 07:03 AM

Does anyone know whether the two internet guys from Southern California (Frank and Ralph) have sold their house and if so for how much? Its the only episode I've been on pay tv in Australia and all the signs weren't good. I'd love to know the outcome if anyone is knows. Thanks

10-16-2005, 11:05 AM	#111
Bearcata what a strong finger Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the edge of the beltway Posts: 8,053	10/16 - new episode Melanie, owns her own Bali import business is going to first time flip a 70 yr old house with her mom, who flipped a property 30 yrs ago. Melanie bought the house for 750,000 plans to put in 50,000 of improvements and sell it for 980,000. Per Kristen good luck if you can do it. First off, Melanie has no FYI experience at all. She did not research the flipping process and does not have a clear plan of what she wants done and of course does not listen to anything that Kirsten says. Surprise, surprise. I don't get people who have no building experience expect to come into the business and use the cheapest laborers ( you get what you pay for ) and expect to make a huge profit. The construction business is notorious for having poor contractors and fly by night operators and yet these inexperienced ladies who cannot keep track of their budget expect to get off scott free. Duh!! What I loved about this show is that there is a gas leak in the house, the old plumbing needs to be redone and so does the electrical. Do the words Home Inspection mean anything. Of course a 70 yr old home has stuff wrong with it and it needed to be addressed during demo not after, when it will cost 3 times as must to fix. By the end of the show Melanie still retained her 980,000 asking price which the open house visitors and realtors all thought was too high. She blew her 4 week timeline into 20 wks and of course blew her budget and had yet to sell her home by the end of the show. This episode is a great warning to first time flippers start small, don't demo any outside walls, check the plumbing and electrical in older homes, have a plan and a budget and stick to it.

10-16-2005, 11:14 PM	#113
mischief4911 REAL WOMEN LOVE DICK Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SILLY RABBIT, DIX ARE FOR GALS Posts: 369	She was totally clueless from the get go to even imagine that she could do the things she wanted to do for 50k. I really think that she hired her friend as the contractor because she figured she would get a deal on the price. Im glad that he kept things on the up and up and wouldn't give in on doing the work without the permits. Just a bit of trivia that means nothing in the context of this show, but I thought I would add ...... Melanie was one of the contestants on Paradise Hotel a couple of summers ago. __________________ Hope no one minds but I the needed to join the club "We make a living from what we get, but we make a life from what we give." Winston Chruchill

10-17-2005, 03:24 PM	#117
Chorita KaBoom Fashionista Sandinista Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Right Here, Right Now! Age: 47 Posts: 1,392	I am really amazed by the people on this show. Melanie (former reality show bitch, er, participant) blows off professional property developer Kristen's advise, and goes with her mother (who flipped "a" house 30 YEARS AGO). When she doesn't get her way she pouts, and walks out of the room. She it's clear with her demo crew. She tells them to take out what ever has an X painted on it, but neglects to tell that she really doesn't want the bathroom tile busted up, even though she' painted an X on it. She when the professional contractor/friend tells her she needs permits for taking down walls, she pouts and complains that she doesn't understand why she would need them (uh, it's the law, you idiot!!). She fires the professional and hires a flybynighter, who will work without permits. I hope that she can be fined for this, the city has video evidence for their case (please, please, put her ass in jail, please)! Oh yeah, apparently she didn't get a house inspection, so major plumbing problems are there, and she doesn't get why the 60-70 year old plumbing isn't okay. She does all the cosmetic work, and none of the corrective work (which would require busting up her cosmetics, and she could be held responsible for). Why do I get the feeling that she did this flip for the chance to be on TV again? She did everything she could to make as much drama as possible. __________________ there is no energy shortage, there is a shortage of imagination

10-17-2005, 07:13 PM	#118
Ilikai Swinging in the hammock Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Taking a long vacation in the tropics Posts: 6,539	all she had to do was fall out of that top one time and she could have been on playboy tv. She sure didn't mind putting them on display, probably hoping it would make everyone see things her way. Boobs is one thing, but getting money for a lousy job is hard work. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" -- Steve Parker Help feed a dog or cat http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...s/CTDSites.woa

10-16-2005, 01:37 PM	#112
canadian_angel Home to loving arms Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: the province with the really long name Age: 25 Posts: 5,188	The other thing it shows, is don't have a temper tantrum or pouting fits when someone else is trying to tell you what's wrong so you don't mess yourself up later on.

10-17-2005, 12:43 PM	#116
Ana Bannana all hot air Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in the palm of the mitten Posts: 4,467	Wonder if she ever sold the house? And how about borrowing $100G from her mom's friend? Who does that??

11-07-2005, 07:35 AM	#119
acgreen80 FORT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1	Hey, I know I am a little behind on posting about this show...but when I was watching Extreme Makeover Home Edition last night (first time in a long while), I thought I recognized the girl on there...Tanya. She is the new designer to the show...but also from Property Ladder, the Tattered Hydrangea. Did anyone else see this?? I thought they said she was a stay at home mom on Property Ladder...you can check out her profile, etc, if you just put her name into google. It also states that the other part owner of the company is her friend, a licensed designer. It doesn't say anything about a cousin. Oh well. I was just wondering if I was the only one who was having conspicupus thoughts about Property Ladder now. Either way I guess its pretty cool that she is a designer on Extreme Makeover Home Edition!

05-28-2006, 07:03 AM	#120
bscouler FORT Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1	Does anyone know whether the two internet guys from Southern California (Frank and Ralph) have sold their house and if so for how much? Its the only episode I've been on pay tv in Australia and all the signs weren't good. I'd love to know the outcome if anyone is knows. Thanks